[arm-allstar] Kenwood repeater issue

[Les Keegan]

I have a SHARI Node I want to put at the repeater site in the future as we are putting a repeater at this hospitals satellite hospital opening this fall and I want to use Allstar to link them together. Now I will have that setup in duplex mode and it has the courtesy tones and what not on it. I have not turned them off as of yet since they are not in service. I probably will use Cwid on it since I do not like the female voice that comes on in that mode. But for now I am hosting my node at my QTH.

Les Keegan
N4LPK
> On 02/07/2021 2:08 PM Steve Agee via ARM-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> *You are correct. The issue is you can program the I.D. for no CTCSS 
> encode, but there is no option I'm aware of in that software to turn it 
> off in the tail hang timer and that is your issue here. If you and your 
> users are willing to deal with a zero hang time repeater (most are not), 
> then that solution will work. Otherwise down the road you can implement 
> the external tone board, then have all the hang time and courtesy beeps 
> that you like.
> 
> N5ZUA
> *
> On 2/7/2021 1:03 PM, "Les Keegan via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > The Kenwood KPG-91 D software allows for me to disable the PL on ID. Which I have done. I will adjust the tail to 0 when I go back  up to the repeater site hopefully this week. I have changed it in the software I just need to download it into the repeater. I have 1 or two users that do not use the output tone and therefore when transmitting they sometimes have the id'er come through their transmission. I have asked them to put tone on their output but they like to hear squelch I guess.  I will have to have a conversation with them again. Yes the node is at my QTH and the repeater is at a local hospital about 4 miles away. Thanks for the information.
> >
> > Les Keegan
> > N4LPK
> >> On 02/07/2021 1:26 PM Steve Agee via ARM-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>   
> >> *There is a lot of information missing here, such as how your node
> >> interfaces to your repeater. I'm going to guess the node and repeater
> >> are in 2 different locations, and that you are using an on-frequency
> >> node radio that talks to the repeater like a mobile would. This is the
> >> absolute worst way to interface a node to a repeater, but can still be
> >> done with modifications.
> >>
> >> To meet the definition of "link compliant" the 0.4 second tail must be
> >> reduced to absolute zero. The best way to do this is to reconfigure the
> >> repeater such that the repeater TX only encodes CTCSS while the CTCSS
> >> condition of the RX is true. Most repeaters are not configurable in this
> >> manner just from software but some are. If not, then you must add a tone
> >> board and wire it in the manner described above. Then completely disable
> >> CTCSS in the repeater software so there is no conflict between it and
> >> the add-on tone board. Likewise, the node radio needs tone encode and
> >> decode enabled as well.
> >>
> >> If this is not your configuration, then please give an in depth
> >> description of how you are interfacing your node to your Kenwood repeater.
> >>
> >> N5ZUA *
> >>
> >> On 2/7/2021 9:01 AM, "Les Keegan via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >>> I have a remote node  on a Kenwood TKR-750 repeater. Recently I connected to a hub node and was told that the Kenwood repeater was causing interference from the squelch tail and the repeater ID. I have the repeater ID un toned so I am not sure why the id is causing interference and we have a very short squelch tail set at 0.4 seconds.
> >>>
> >>> Is  there something in the settings I can change to make this interference go away?
> >>>
> >>> Les Keegan
> >>> N4LPK
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