[arm-allstar] Kenwood repeater issue

Steve Agee irlp8720 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 7 14:08:31 EST 2021


*You are correct. The issue is you can program the I.D. for no CTCSS 
encode, but there is no option I'm aware of in that software to turn it 
off in the tail hang timer and that is your issue here. If you and your 
users are willing to deal with a zero hang time repeater (most are not), 
then that solution will work. Otherwise down the road you can implement 
the external tone board, then have all the hang time and courtesy beeps 
that you like.

N5ZUA
*
On 2/7/2021 1:03 PM, "Les Keegan via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> The Kenwood KPG-91 D software allows for me to disable the PL on ID. Which I have done. I will adjust the tail to 0 when I go back  up to the repeater site hopefully this week. I have changed it in the software I just need to download it into the repeater. I have 1 or two users that do not use the output tone and therefore when transmitting they sometimes have the id'er come through their transmission. I have asked them to put tone on their output but they like to hear squelch I guess.  I will have to have a conversation with them again. Yes the node is at my QTH and the repeater is at a local hospital about 4 miles away. Thanks for the information.
>
> Les Keegan
> N4LPK
>> On 02/07/2021 1:26 PM Steve Agee via ARM-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> *There is a lot of information missing here, such as how your node
>> interfaces to your repeater. I'm going to guess the node and repeater
>> are in 2 different locations, and that you are using an on-frequency
>> node radio that talks to the repeater like a mobile would. This is the
>> absolute worst way to interface a node to a repeater, but can still be
>> done with modifications.
>>
>> To meet the definition of "link compliant" the 0.4 second tail must be
>> reduced to absolute zero. The best way to do this is to reconfigure the
>> repeater such that the repeater TX only encodes CTCSS while the CTCSS
>> condition of the RX is true. Most repeaters are not configurable in this
>> manner just from software but some are. If not, then you must add a tone
>> board and wire it in the manner described above. Then completely disable
>> CTCSS in the repeater software so there is no conflict between it and
>> the add-on tone board. Likewise, the node radio needs tone encode and
>> decode enabled as well.
>>
>> If this is not your configuration, then please give an in depth
>> description of how you are interfacing your node to your Kenwood repeater.
>>
>> N5ZUA *
>>
>> On 2/7/2021 9:01 AM, "Les Keegan via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>> I have a remote node  on a Kenwood TKR-750 repeater. Recently I connected to a hub node and was told that the Kenwood repeater was causing interference from the squelch tail and the repeater ID. I have the repeater ID un toned so I am not sure why the id is causing interference and we have a very short squelch tail set at 0.4 seconds.
>>>
>>> Is  there something in the settings I can change to make this interference go away?
>>>
>>> Les Keegan
>>> N4LPK
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