[arm-allstar] Sending tones and Documentation

Don Ritchie k8zgw at twc.com
Sat Jan 18 17:03:23 EST 2020 

While were on the subject of DTMF,

will the allstar software decode a touch tone sequence and change the 
state of a GPIO pin after it is received ?

how long can that TT sequence be ? ( 4 digests ?)

The "plan" is to operate a relay when GPIO 4 ( or 8) via the RA-42 to 
put the radio on channel 2..


Thanks

Don K8ZGW

On 1/18/2020 15:50, "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> Don,
>
>    Not sure where the disconnect was. I was talking about the standard DTMF
> keyboard with keys -
>
> 1234567890#*ABCD
>
> These are directly playable with the cop 48 command by just specifying the
> key as opposed to the
> specifying the actual two tones that each consists of. You can also specify
> each key as the actual
> two tones and doing it that way you can also specify a duration.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 2:54 PM "Don Ritchie via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
>> Duh, Now I feel stupid..
>>
>> after re-reading the thread a number of times, I now realize you were
>> talking about "any' tone,
>>
>> as opposed to the "A" tone on a DTMF dial... Coming from a telephone
>> background, and for a time having a job
>>
>> where we actually used the "A" "B""C" and "D" keys on a touchtone dial,
>> I jumped to a conclusion that that is
>>
>> what was being talked about instead of a tone of xxxx Hz (2713 Hz, one
>> of my favorites, I worked with tie lines a lot.)
>>
>> Don, K8ZGW
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/2020 23:38, "Don Ritchie via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>> I"m confused ???
>>>
>>> You talk about the DTMF "A" tone, what are you referring to ?
>>>
>>> DTMF , by it's nature, is TWO TONES (duel tone multi frequency)
>>>
>>> and you all make it sound like one tone ...
>>>
>>> to get an "A" you need to send both 697 hz and 1633 hz, at real close
>>> to the same level, to be decoded as an "A" !!
>>>
>>> so, what are you trying to get ?
>>>
>>> DON, k8zgw
>>>
>>> On 1/17/2020 19:06, "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>> That is a neat trick.
>>>>
>>>> That helped with the missing DTMF tone.
>>>>
>>>> I still do not know where the commands are documented better.
>>>>
>>>> I still do not know how to make the DTMF A tone play solid for 2
>>>> seconds.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Kip
>>>>
>>>> On 1/17/20 5:26 PM, "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>>> Kip,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I think you probably need to add delays especially at the
>>>>> beginning. Here
>>>>> is some info on this from previous emails....
>>>>>
>>>>> EXAMPLES:
>>>>>
>>>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
>>>>>
>> !0/500,!1100+1700/100,!700+900/60,!700+1100/60,!700+900/60,!1500+1700/60
>>>>>
>>>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!399.8/1000,!339.6/2000
>>>>>
>>>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
>>>>>
>> !0/500,!697+1209/200,!0/200,!697+1336/200,!0/200,!697+1477/200,!0/200,!770+1209/200,!0/200
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,1,2,3,A,4,5,6,B,7,8,9,C,*,0,#,D
>>>>>
>>>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!1068+1068.35/1400
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ....Replace the 1998 with your node number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Delay EXAMPLES
>>>>>
>>>>> Send DTMF 1,2,3. To place a 1/4 second delay between tones, and a 1/2
>>>>> second at the
>>>>> beginning, try something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> 981=cop,48,!0/500,1,!0/250,2,!0/250,3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 4:40 PM "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" <
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am working on sending pager tones for when we go to Skywarn nets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our county has two sets of pager tones that we use for historical
>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition we send a DTMF A tone, which turns on the speaker on some
>>>>>> people's radio somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we start a Skywarn net the pager tones can wake people up, (or
>>>>>> at an
>>>>>> EOC if they have a Motorola radio) and turn on the speaker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at https://www2.hamvoip.org/allstar_functions.pdf it lists
>> the
>>>>>> functions but not the format of the commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So someone told me the commands I am looking for are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 901=cop,48,!330.5/1000,!349.0/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
>>>>>> Motorola codes 110,111
>>>>>> 902=cop,48,!634.5/1000,!707.3/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
>>>>>> Motorola codes 122,124
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 903=cop,48,A/2000                             ; Send DTMF A tone for 2
>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first two work. How am I supposed to guess the format? Where is it
>>>>>> documented? it is not documented in the .pdf above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last one does not work.  I think it keys but no sound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I tried
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 903=cop,48,A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still no sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Found this link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://www.chrishoodblog.com/pass-dtmf-through-allstar-to-rc-210-repeater-controller/
>>>>>> which said
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The syntax is as follows:
>>>>>> DTMF command through Allstar = cop,48,DTMF,DTMF,DTMF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EX…
>>>>>> 880 = cop,A,1,1
>>>>>> You key up send *880 and release
>>>>>> Allstar will generate A 1 1 and send it out the radio, but not back
>>>>>> across the Allstar network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I tried:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 903=cop,48,A,A,A,A,A,A,A  ; 7 A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and I heard 6 A tones. So the first one is silent?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not have any commands that start with the DTMF A. I thought that
>>>>>> may be the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the first one is silent maybe I should try
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 903=cop,48,A,A/2000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How am I supposed to figure out how this works?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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