[arm-allstar] Sending tones and Documentation

Sat Jan 18 15:50:04 EST 2020

Don,

  Not sure where the disconnect was. I was talking about the standard DTMF
keyboard with keys -

1234567890#*ABCD

These are directly playable with the cop 48 command by just specifying the
key as opposed to the
specifying the actual two tones that each consists of. You can also specify
each key as the actual
two tones and doing it that way you can also specify a duration.

*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 2:54 PM "Don Ritchie via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Duh, Now I feel stupid..
>
> after re-reading the thread a number of times, I now realize you were
> talking about "any' tone,
>
> as opposed to the "A" tone on a DTMF dial... Coming from a telephone
> background, and for a time having a job
>
> where we actually used the "A" "B""C" and "D" keys on a touchtone dial,
> I jumped to a conclusion that that is
>
> what was being talked about instead of a tone of xxxx Hz (2713 Hz, one
> of my favorites, I worked with tie lines a lot.)
>
> Don, K8ZGW
>
>
> On 1/17/2020 23:38, "Don Ritchie via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > I"m confused ???
> >
> > You talk about the DTMF "A" tone, what are you referring to ?
> >
> > DTMF , by it's nature, is TWO TONES (duel tone multi frequency)
> >
> > and you all make it sound like one tone ...
> >
> > to get an "A" you need to send both 697 hz and 1633 hz, at real close
> > to the same level, to be decoded as an "A" !!
> >
> > so, what are you trying to get ?
> >
> > DON, k8zgw
> >
> > On 1/17/2020 19:06, "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >> That is a neat trick.
> >>
> >> That helped with the missing DTMF tone.
> >>
> >> I still do not know where the commands are documented better.
> >>
> >> I still do not know how to make the DTMF A tone play solid for 2
> >> seconds.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> Kip
> >>
> >> On 1/17/20 5:26 PM, "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >>> Kip,
> >>>
> >>>    I think you probably need to add delays especially at the
> >>> beginning. Here
> >>> is some info on this from previous emails....
> >>>
> >>> EXAMPLES:
> >>>
> >>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
> >>>
> !0/500,!1100+1700/100,!700+900/60,!700+1100/60,!700+900/60,!1500+1700/60
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!399.8/1000,!339.6/2000
> >>>
> >>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
> >>>
> !0/500,!697+1209/200,!0/200,!697+1336/200,!0/200,!697+1477/200,!0/200,!770+1209/200,!0/200
>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,1,2,3,A,4,5,6,B,7,8,9,C,*,0,#,D
> >>>
> >>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!1068+1068.35/1400
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ....Replace the 1998 with your node number.
> >>>
> >>> Delay EXAMPLES
> >>>
> >>> Send DTMF 1,2,3. To place a 1/4 second delay between tones, and a 1/2
> >>> second at the
> >>> beginning, try something like:
> >>>
> >>> 981=cop,48,!0/500,1,!0/250,2,!0/250,3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *73 Doug*
> >>>
> >>> *WA3DSP*
> >>>
> >>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 4:40 PM "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" <
> >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am working on sending pager tones for when we go to Skywarn nets.
> >>>>
> >>>> Our county has two sets of pager tones that we use for historical
> >>>> purposes.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition we send a DTMF A tone, which turns on the speaker on some
> >>>> people's radio somehow.
> >>>>
> >>>> If we start a Skywarn net the pager tones can wake people up, (or
> >>>> at an
> >>>> EOC if they have a Motorola radio) and turn on the speaker.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at https://www2.hamvoip.org/allstar_functions.pdf it lists
> the
> >>>> functions but not the format of the commands.
> >>>>
> >>>> So someone told me the commands I am looking for are:
> >>>>
> >>>> 901=cop,48,!330.5/1000,!349.0/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
> >>>> Motorola codes 110,111
> >>>> 902=cop,48,!634.5/1000,!707.3/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
> >>>> Motorola codes 122,124
> >>>>
> >>>> 903=cop,48,A/2000                             ; Send DTMF A tone for 2
> >>>> seconds
> >>>>
> >>>> The first two work. How am I supposed to guess the format? Where is it
> >>>> documented? it is not documented in the .pdf above.
> >>>>
> >>>> The last one does not work.  I think it keys but no sound
> >>>>
> >>>> So I tried
> >>>>
> >>>> 903=cop,48,A
> >>>>
> >>>> Still no sound.
> >>>>
> >>>> Found this link:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.chrishoodblog.com/pass-dtmf-through-allstar-to-rc-210-repeater-controller/
> >>>>
> >>>> which said
> >>>>
> >>>> The syntax is as follows:
> >>>> DTMF command through Allstar = cop,48,DTMF,DTMF,DTMF
> >>>>
> >>>> EX…
> >>>> 880 = cop,A,1,1
> >>>> You key up send *880 and release
> >>>> Allstar will generate A 1 1 and send it out the radio, but not back
> >>>> across the Allstar network.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I tried:
> >>>>
> >>>> 903=cop,48,A,A,A,A,A,A,A  ; 7 A
> >>>>
> >>>> and I heard 6 A tones. So the first one is silent?
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not have any commands that start with the DTMF A. I thought that
> >>>> may be the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the first one is silent maybe I should try
> >>>>
> >>>> 903=cop,48,A,A/2000
> >>>>
> >>>> No sound.
> >>>>
> >>>> How am I supposed to figure out how this works?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kip
> >>>>
> >>>>
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