[arm-allstar] Sending tones and Documentation

[Don Ritchie]

Duh, Now I feel stupid..

after re-reading the thread a number of times, I now realize you were 
talking about "any' tone,

as opposed to the "A" tone on a DTMF dial... Coming from a telephone 
background, and for a time having a job

where we actually used the "A" "B""C" and "D" keys on a touchtone dial, 
I jumped to a conclusion that that is

what was being talked about instead of a tone of xxxx Hz (2713 Hz, one 
of my favorites, I worked with tie lines a lot.)

Don, K8ZGW


On 1/17/2020 23:38, "Don Ritchie via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> I"m confused ???
>
> You talk about the DTMF "A" tone, what are you referring to ?
>
> DTMF , by it's nature, is TWO TONES (duel tone multi frequency)
>
> and you all make it sound like one tone ...
>
> to get an "A" you need to send both 697 hz and 1633 hz, at real close 
> to the same level, to be decoded as an "A" !!
>
> so, what are you trying to get ?
>
> DON, k8zgw
>
> On 1/17/2020 19:06, "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>> That is a neat trick.
>>
>> That helped with the missing DTMF tone.
>>
>> I still do not know where the commands are documented better.
>>
>> I still do not know how to make the DTMF A tone play solid for 2 
>> seconds.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Kip
>>
>> On 1/17/20 5:26 PM, "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>> Kip,
>>>
>>>    I think you probably need to add delays especially at the 
>>> beginning. Here
>>> is some info on this from previous emails....
>>>
>>> EXAMPLES:
>>>
>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
>>> !0/500,!1100+1700/100,!700+900/60,!700+1100/60,!700+900/60,!1500+1700/60 
>>>
>>>
>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!399.8/1000,!339.6/2000
>>>
>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48
>>> !0/500,!697+1209/200,!0/200,!697+1336/200,!0/200,!697+1477/200,!0/200,!770+1209/200,!0/200 
>>>
>>>
>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,1,2,3,A,4,5,6,B,7,8,9,C,*,0,#,D
>>>
>>> rpt cmd 1998 cop 48 !0/500,!1068+1068.35/1400
>>>
>>>
>>> ....Replace the 1998 with your node number.
>>>
>>> Delay EXAMPLES
>>>
>>> Send DTMF 1,2,3. To place a 1/4 second delay between tones, and a 1/2
>>> second at the
>>> beginning, try something like:
>>>
>>> 981=cop,48,!0/500,1,!0/250,2,!0/250,3
>>>
>>>
>>> *73 Doug*
>>>
>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>
>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 4:40 PM "Kipton Moravec via ARM-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am working on sending pager tones for when we go to Skywarn nets.
>>>>
>>>> Our county has two sets of pager tones that we use for historical 
>>>> purposes.
>>>>
>>>> In addition we send a DTMF A tone, which turns on the speaker on some
>>>> people's radio somehow.
>>>>
>>>> If we start a Skywarn net the pager tones can wake people up, (or 
>>>> at an
>>>> EOC if they have a Motorola radio) and turn on the speaker.
>>>>
>>>> Looking at https://www2.hamvoip.org/allstar_functions.pdf it lists the
>>>> functions but not the format of the commands.
>>>>
>>>> So someone told me the commands I am looking for are:
>>>>
>>>> 901=cop,48,!330.5/1000,!349.0/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
>>>> Motorola codes 110,111
>>>> 902=cop,48,!634.5/1000,!707.3/3000 ; Send two tone paging sequence:
>>>> Motorola codes 122,124
>>>>
>>>> 903=cop,48,A/2000                             ; Send DTMF A tone for 2
>>>> seconds
>>>>
>>>> The first two work. How am I supposed to guess the format? Where is it
>>>> documented? it is not documented in the .pdf above.
>>>>
>>>> The last one does not work.  I think it keys but no sound
>>>>
>>>> So I tried
>>>>
>>>> 903=cop,48,A
>>>>
>>>> Still no sound.
>>>>
>>>> Found this link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chrishoodblog.com/pass-dtmf-through-allstar-to-rc-210-repeater-controller/ 
>>>>
>>>> which said
>>>>
>>>> The syntax is as follows:
>>>> DTMF command through Allstar = cop,48,DTMF,DTMF,DTMF
>>>>
>>>> EX…
>>>> 880 = cop,A,1,1
>>>> You key up send *880 and release
>>>> Allstar will generate A 1 1 and send it out the radio, but not back
>>>> across the Allstar network.
>>>>
>>>> So I tried:
>>>>
>>>> 903=cop,48,A,A,A,A,A,A,A  ; 7 A
>>>>
>>>> and I heard 6 A tones. So the first one is silent?
>>>>
>>>> I do not have any commands that start with the DTMF A. I thought that
>>>> may be the issue.
>>>>
>>>> If the first one is silent maybe I should try
>>>>
>>>> 903=cop,48,A,A/2000
>>>>
>>>> No sound.
>>>>
>>>> How am I supposed to figure out how this works?
>>>>
>>>> Kip
>>>>
>>>>
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