[arm-allstar] timed link disconnect from receiving node

[David McGough]

Two areas which were pointed out to me by counsel were:

97.113(a)(5)
Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furnished 
alternatively through other radio services. 


.....So, can you receive a NOAA broadcast directly?? This is another radio
service.  In most areas of the USA, NOAA transmissions on 162.4 thru
162.55 MHz blanket the airwaves with good sites, antennas and KW
transmitters...There are exceptions, however....

It was also pointed out to me that if NOAA is re-transmitted when storms
are nearby or expected, that constitutes "a regular basis."


97.113(c)
..<snip>..Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft 
communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular basis, 
but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur radio 
communications. 

"may not be conducted on a regular basis" --- see above.

"as an incident of normal amateur radio communications" ---- like a NOAA 
receiver is playing in the background when you're talking via a mic over 
ham radio.


Anyhow, *PLEASE* do follow up with counsel (like the ARRL general
counsel). I, too, would like for the FCC stance to be relaxed on NOAA.


73, David KB4FXC



On Fri, 17 May 2019, "Lawrence Roney via ARM-allstar" wrote:

> Hopefully, without turning this into a discussion on FCC rules...
> 
> After doing research and getting opinions from others on implementing a timed disconnect for a WX rebroadcasting node, it appears that retransmission of NOAA weather radio is an allowed exception in Part § 97.113(c) as long as the original transmission 1) is intended for use by the general public, 2) originated from United States Government stations, and 3) is only conducted occasionally as an incident of normal amateur radio communications.
> 
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.113 
> 
> Thanks for everyone's suggestions.  I will pass them along to the owner of the WX node.
> 
> Lawrence - N6YFN
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:45:07 -0400 (EDT) David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote: 
> 
> 
> I know re-transmitting NOAA has been a previously debated grey area of the part 97 rules.  I made some noise about this several years ago and found the FCC interpretation at that point was that re-transmitting NOAA was not allowed.
> 
> I recommend that anyone considering NOAA re-transmission should follow up and get an expert opinion from council---such as from the ARRL general council.....
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> On Thu, 16 May 2019, "Lawrence Roney via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> 
> > We have a club member who was looking to do the same thing with their
> "weather" node.  The node's audio input comes from a receiver that's tuned to the regional NOAA weather broadcast loop.  As a safeguard, they asked me if there was a way to force disconnect an incoming call after 3 minutes, which is enough time to hear the loop broadcast in its entirety, but then drop the link so it could not inadvertently tie up a repeater.
> > 
> > Thanks Doug,
> > 
> > Lawrence - N6YFN
> > 
> <snip>
> 
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