[arm-allstar] Node in Cloud

Joshua Nulton kg5ebi at gmail.com
Fri Jun 14 13:28:28 EDT 2019 

That was most definitely a typo if I said Windows. I run Arch and Kali on a
MacBook, only using Windows when editing a video. I love Ubuntu as much as
you and equally for the Pi. I have read about the Pi farm and am anxious to
hear some thoughts from users once it is officially live.

I have been playing with the digital modes the past year and very much miss
the sound quality, open nature, and scripting ability of Allstar. I am
coming back to her soon. 3 years ago you warned me about writing to my
memory card too much, saving the archive audio to the OS card rather than
USB or the cloud... I thought to myself another crazy paranoid old guy,
probably still uses a Zip disk. My first card went bad on me, shamefully
embarrassed that I didn’t take your advice. You were right ...again.

73’s to you Doug and talk to you soon,
KG5EBI

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> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:23:56 -0400
> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in Cloud
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> Joshua,
>
>   Thanks for the kind words but as far as programming most of the credit
> goes to Dave, KB4FXC but we work well together as a team.
>
> If and when we do a PC version it will definitely not be Windows based. It
> would be running on the same Linux OS that it is now on the Pi, Archlinux.
> While the PC is obviously more powerful the Pi is a great platform and does
> not get nearly the credit it should for its capabilities. The current Pi
> 3B+ in turbo mode will handle most all Allstar applications. I realize
> there are some few situations where the PC version might be useful. This is
> mostly confined to situations where you would either not have Internet or
> have poor Internet and need to run a virtual PC at a data center. Allstar
> does not work well or at least not as well as we would like it to on a
> virtual PC. In that regard one thing we have operating but not officially
> announced yet is a "Pi Farm" or virtual Pi which is a bunch of Pi's at a
> data center that users can rent time on. This eliminates the problem for
> those in bad or no Internet areas.
>
> Also keep in mind that several Pi's draw less power than a PC so running
> all your applications on one Pi is really not necessary. It is a shame that
> some ham communication applications are exclusively written in Windows and
> not in Linux. Windows is something I gave up several years ago with the
> advent of version 10. Ubuntu with an occasional use of virtualbox running
> windows 7, when necessary, is about all I do in Windows!
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:03 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > First, thank you so much Doug for all that you do and the massive amount
> > you have done. I am always astounded at the level of support you deliver
> to
> > this community, all with no salary.
> >
> > The node in cloud discussion took a slight turn for me as well when the
> > concept of PC vs. RPi came up. But it did remind me that you had once
> > posted that a goal was to eventually have a PC based transceiver package.
> > Is the goal to maintain 100% of the focus on the Pi now? If so that is
> > certainly acceptable as it is very affordable and reliable (my god I
> didn't
> > realize it could handle 70!!).
> >
> > I only ask about the PC concept because I am toying with the idea
> building
> > a couple more nodes, to include the digital modes via the AMBE3000 built
> > atop a LattePanda with some e-ink displays and that would be incredible
> to
> > have Allstar running on the Windows side of that SBC.
> >
> > Thanks again for everything,
> > Jae KG5EBI
> >
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> > >    1. Re: Node in cloud (Glenn)
> > >    2. Re: Node in cloud (Doug Crompton)
> > >    3. Re: Node in cloud (Tim Sawyer)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 10:59:52 -0500
> > > From: Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net>
> > > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
> > > Message-ID: <279d8c6f-a4b3-8b92-34c2-94f68ac7f9e1 at suddenlink.net>
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> > > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud"   If you are
> > > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> > cases.
> > > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> > parameters
> > > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *73 Doug*
> > > >
> > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > >
> > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >*
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall.  Don't
> > need
> > > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any incoming
> > > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via the
> > > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > > >> _______________________________________________
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> > > >> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
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> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sorry I didn't make? clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual
> server..AS
> > > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 13:20:19 -0400
> > > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > > To: Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net>
> > > Cc: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > OK, Well I am still not clear what you are doing. Since hamvoip does
> not
> > > run on a PC. Do they offer RPi hardware? If this is not hamvoip then
> you
> > > need to take it to another list.
> > >
> > > Also to clear up some myths about the RPi and hamvoip vs running
> Allstar
> > on
> > > a PC. The RPi3 and certainly the RPi3 in turbo mode will support at
> least
> > > 70 direct connections and several radio nodes using the hamvoip
> software.
> > > There is really no reason to use a PC to run Allstar. Obviously in the
> > past
> > > this was not the case and it is hard to teach old dogs new tricks. Also
> > the
> > > hamvoip software does make a difference in this case because it has
> been
> > > greatly optimized for the Pi with outstanding high resolution timing
> > which
> > > is extremely important for a properly run Asterisk/Allstar. No other
> > > distribution has these enhancements and no current distribution of
> > Allstar
> > > runs perfectly as a VM and certainly not up to the standards of the
> > hamvoip
> > > code.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:59 AM Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud"   If you
> are
> > > > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> > > cases.
> > > > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> > > parameters
> > > > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > >
> > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > >
> > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall.  Don't
> > > need
> > > > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > > > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > > > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any
> incoming
> > > > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via
> the
> > > > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > >> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >
> > > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Sorry I didn't make  clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > > > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual
> > server..AS
> > > > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 11:12:34 -0700
> > > From: Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com>
> > > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
> > > Message-ID:
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> > > w at mail.gmail.com>
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> > >
> > > You'll need to permit port 4567 through your firewall.
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM "Glenn via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud"   If you
> are
> > > > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> > > cases.
> > > > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> > > parameters
> > > > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > >
> > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > >
> > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall.  Don't
> > > need
> > > > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > > > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > > > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any
> incoming
> > > > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via
> the
> > > > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > >> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >
> > > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Sorry I didn't make  clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > > > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual
> > server..AS
> > > > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tim WD6AWP
> > >
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