[arm-allstar] Node in Cloud
Doug Crompton
wa3dsp at gmail.com
Fri Jun 14 10:23:56 EDT 2019
Joshua,
Thanks for the kind words but as far as programming most of the credit
goes to Dave, KB4FXC but we work well together as a team.
If and when we do a PC version it will definitely not be Windows based. It
would be running on the same Linux OS that it is now on the Pi, Archlinux.
While the PC is obviously more powerful the Pi is a great platform and does
not get nearly the credit it should for its capabilities. The current Pi
3B+ in turbo mode will handle most all Allstar applications. I realize
there are some few situations where the PC version might be useful. This is
mostly confined to situations where you would either not have Internet or
have poor Internet and need to run a virtual PC at a data center. Allstar
does not work well or at least not as well as we would like it to on a
virtual PC. In that regard one thing we have operating but not officially
announced yet is a "Pi Farm" or virtual Pi which is a bunch of Pi's at a
data center that users can rent time on. This eliminates the problem for
those in bad or no Internet areas.
Also keep in mind that several Pi's draw less power than a PC so running
all your applications on one Pi is really not necessary. It is a shame that
some ham communication applications are exclusively written in Windows and
not in Linux. Windows is something I gave up several years ago with the
advent of version 10. Ubuntu with an occasional use of virtualbox running
windows 7, when necessary, is about all I do in Windows!
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 8:03 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> First, thank you so much Doug for all that you do and the massive amount
> you have done. I am always astounded at the level of support you deliver to
> this community, all with no salary.
>
> The node in cloud discussion took a slight turn for me as well when the
> concept of PC vs. RPi came up. But it did remind me that you had once
> posted that a goal was to eventually have a PC based transceiver package.
> Is the goal to maintain 100% of the focus on the Pi now? If so that is
> certainly acceptable as it is very affordable and reliable (my god I didn't
> realize it could handle 70!!).
>
> I only ask about the PC concept because I am toying with the idea building
> a couple more nodes, to include the digital modes via the AMBE3000 built
> atop a LattePanda with some e-ink displays and that would be incredible to
> have Allstar running on the Windows side of that SBC.
>
> Thanks again for everything,
> Jae KG5EBI
>
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> > 1. Re: Node in cloud (Glenn)
> > 2. Re: Node in cloud (Doug Crompton)
> > 3. Re: Node in cloud (Tim Sawyer)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 10:59:52 -0500
> > From: Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net>
> > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
> > Message-ID: <279d8c6f-a4b3-8b92-34c2-94f68ac7f9e1 at suddenlink.net>
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> > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud" If you are
> > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> cases.
> > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> parameters
> > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall. Don't
> need
> > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any incoming
> > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via the
> > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> > >
> > Sorry I didn't make? clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual server..AS
> > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 13:20:19 -0400
> > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > To: Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net>
> > Cc: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
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> >
> > OK, Well I am still not clear what you are doing. Since hamvoip does not
> > run on a PC. Do they offer RPi hardware? If this is not hamvoip then you
> > need to take it to another list.
> >
> > Also to clear up some myths about the RPi and hamvoip vs running Allstar
> on
> > a PC. The RPi3 and certainly the RPi3 in turbo mode will support at least
> > 70 direct connections and several radio nodes using the hamvoip software.
> > There is really no reason to use a PC to run Allstar. Obviously in the
> past
> > this was not the case and it is hard to teach old dogs new tricks. Also
> the
> > hamvoip software does make a difference in this case because it has been
> > greatly optimized for the Pi with outstanding high resolution timing
> which
> > is extremely important for a properly run Asterisk/Allstar. No other
> > distribution has these enhancements and no current distribution of
> Allstar
> > runs perfectly as a VM and certainly not up to the standards of the
> hamvoip
> > code.
> >
> >
> > *73 Doug*
> >
> > *WA3DSP*
> >
> > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >
> > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:59 AM Glenn <ka5tkn at suddenlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud" If you are
> > > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> > cases.
> > > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> > parameters
> > > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *73 Doug*
> > > >
> > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > >
> > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >*
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall. Don't
> > need
> > > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any incoming
> > > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via the
> > > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >>
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> > > >> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > >> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >>
> > > >> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sorry I didn't make clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual
> server..AS
> > > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 11:12:34 -0700
> > From: Tim Sawyer <tisawyer at gmail.com>
> > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Node in cloud
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAG3ht9vo3jVPBKak33wSo6gBxKkQf7jJHUAsx_B6xhS4Wgbi=
> > w at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > You'll need to permit port 4567 through your firewall.
> >
> > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM "Glenn via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > I have no idea what you are talking about "in the cloud" If you are
> > > > referring to a hotspot node it would only be outgoing in most all
> > cases.
> > > > The "built-in" firewall needs to be configured. It has pre-set
> > parameters
> > > > and may be blocking a port you want to use. Configuration is in
> > > > /etc/openvpn/firewall.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *73 Doug*
> > > >
> > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > >
> > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >*
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM "ka5tkn--- via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Have setup 42929 in cloud..using AllStar built in firewall. Don't
> > need
> > > >> router as no need port forward. I can ssh to node. Using
> > > Windows-iaxrpt, I
> > > >> can dial out and make connections. However cannot make any incoming
> > > >> connections. Any ideas on what I am missing. Glenn k5codSent via the
> > > >> Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >>
> > > >> ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > >> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > >> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >>
> > > >> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sorry I didn't make clearer...I installed 42929 AllStar node on a
> > > Virtual Server in the Cloud at Vultr.com as a hosting virtual
> server..AS
> > > far as I can tell you should be able to call in and out.Glenn K5COD
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > ARM-allstar mailing list
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> > >
> > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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