[arm-allstar] Nano Allstar Interface code?

Thu Jul 6 22:00:28 EST 2017

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm kind of afraid of trying to
modify a USB Fob.  I don't think my rudimentary soldering skills will enable
me to safely tack on to the pin of the IC without bridging to another pin.
I would welcome anything that would enable me to use the cheap fobs and not
have to do that.  So far both my current nodes are using URIx interfaces,
and pre-made cables from Marshall, KE6PCV.  I'm thinking about trying out
the RIM or RA-35 interface for my home node, which would free up my second
URIx to go onto our VHF repeater.  It's the same reason I'm not building a
portable node out of a BF-888 - I don't think I'm capable or qualified to do
the modifications needed.  I'm good with the computer side, but not real
good at doing modifications to the radios or fobs!

Jeremy, NQ0M

-----Original Message-----
From: arm-allstar [mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of
"Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:45 PM
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Nano Allstar Interface code?

Larry,

  Well the Nano is cheap so no great loss if you don't use it. I do think we
eventually will have an interface mode for it  but my point in my previous
email was that there is nothing wrong with the USB FOBs at this point. I
have built the Nano - it was the one that was in the howto and after
building it kind of dawned on me that it was a lot more work and more
complicated (more things to go wrong) than just modifying a FOB. You still
have to do a lot of wiring and interfacing and in the end it is not as clean
as a FOB because you have signals coming from two different places and you
are using an extra USB port. I know it is neat to use a Nano but why make
extra work just to play. I suspect if and when the Nano is supported it will
have limited use compared to just using a USB FOB. As you know the Nano does
not replace the FOB you still need it anyway.

Everyone should buy a supply of these FOBs. They are easy to modify and if
we get enough on hand we will never have to worry about running out!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272374780193

*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:53 PM, "Larry via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Greetings Doug,
>
> I understand all of You and Dave's comments and realize all the effort 
> both of you have put forth to make this a great system.
>
> I like Andy, and I'm sure others who have built or bought hardware all 
> sitting at the ready anticipating it's hinted at release with V1.5,
>
> None of us are asking you to release or support something you and Dave 
> feel isn't ready.
> However since at some point You/Dave had a working model (good or bad).
> Some hint about the intended process (block Diagram, flow chart, 
> modules it needed to utilize it at all) would at least give us a 
> starting place for playing with the interface.
> If nothing else we might possibly find a use for it not necessarily 
> instantaneous radio control but something useful rather than pitching 
> the hardware.
>
> 73
> Larry - N7FM
>
>
>
>
> On 07/06/2017 09:02 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" wrote:
>
>> As Dave has pointed out the Nano interface project is temporarily on 
>> hold mainly because of more pressing issues and family matters but 
>> since its its inception a number of other things have come about. One 
>> is that the fear of not having good USB FOB's has for the most part 
>> gone away. The advent of the open board FOB has somewhat changed 
>> things. It is well made and easy to modify.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272374780193
>>
>> There have also been more and less expensive commercial products 
>> available like the RA-35 -
>>
>> http://www.masterscommunications.com/products/radio-adapter/ra35.html
>>
>> The USB adapters work fine and of course if you desire there is 
>> always the old standby DMK-URI, the more expensive RIM, etc..
>>
>> There are also several people modifying FOBS and selling them and 
>> club projects are doing it on a mass scale. So at this point there is 
>> no shortage of interface products for Allstar. I am not saying the 
>> Nano project is dead but we also cannot say when it might be 
>> available. For that reason I have temporarily removed the link to the 
>> Nano board project on the hamvoip.org web page.
>>
>> I have gone through this many time as this often comes up when people 
>> want a cheap and easy way to do things. You can have cheap with a 
>> little work or easy with more cost but not both. Using the GPIO or 
>> Nano require just as much work as modifying the FOB and those methods 
>> have their own issues they are not a panacea either. The amount of 
>> required parts and assembly is actually the same or more using these 
>> methods.
>>
>>
>> *73 Doug*
>>
>> *WA3DSP*
>>
>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:36 AM, "David McGough via arm-allstar" < 
>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> This project got slowed down due to unanticipated personal 
>>> obligations on my part. No code has been released yet. Hopefully 
>>> we'll have something before too much longer.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, "K1RA - Andy Z via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>>    I've recently built the Arduino Nano Allstar interface published 
>>>> here
>>>>
>>>> http://crompton.com/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
>>>>
>>>> and schematic here
>>>>
>>>> http://crompton.com/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
>>>>
>>> Hamvoip%20Nano%20GPIO%20Interface%20Schematic.pdf
>>>
>>>>
>>>> but I can't seem to find any reference to the sketch, INO or PDE 
>>>> file
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> would represent the code one would download to the device using the
>>>>
>>> Arduino
>>>
>>>> IDE.  Can anyone post a link to the source? I'm interested in
>>>>
>>> experimenting
>>>
>>>> with this asap.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & 73
>>>>
>>>> andyz - K1RA
>>>> http://k1ra.us/
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