[arm-allstar] Nano Allstar Interface code?

Thu Jul 6 23:05:23 EST 2017

Jeremy,

  At less than $3 a FOB shipped I would say give it a try, give it several
tries. Don't worry about screwing it up. It is really very easy to do. Use
wirewrap #30 wire. Strip the end. Thread it under the pins to the last
(end) pin. Bend up the wirewrap lead. just tack it there with a small iron.
Use magnification. Follow the pictorials on the web site. Take you time.

An alternative is to buy one modified or find someone that will do it for
you. I have a source of modified ones if you want to go that route.

*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:00 PM, "Jeremy Utley via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm kind of afraid of trying to
> modify a USB Fob.  I don't think my rudimentary soldering skills will
> enable
> me to safely tack on to the pin of the IC without bridging to another pin.
> I would welcome anything that would enable me to use the cheap fobs and not
> have to do that.  So far both my current nodes are using URIx interfaces,
> and pre-made cables from Marshall, KE6PCV.  I'm thinking about trying out
> the RIM or RA-35 interface for my home node, which would free up my second
> URIx to go onto our VHF repeater.  It's the same reason I'm not building a
> portable node out of a BF-888 - I don't think I'm capable or qualified to
> do
> the modifications needed.  I'm good with the computer side, but not real
> good at doing modifications to the radios or fobs!
>
> Jeremy, NQ0M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arm-allstar [mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of
> "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:45 PM
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Nano Allstar Interface code?
>
> Larry,
>
>   Well the Nano is cheap so no great loss if you don't use it. I do think
> we
> eventually will have an interface mode for it  but my point in my previous
> email was that there is nothing wrong with the USB FOBs at this point. I
> have built the Nano - it was the one that was in the howto and after
> building it kind of dawned on me that it was a lot more work and more
> complicated (more things to go wrong) than just modifying a FOB. You still
> have to do a lot of wiring and interfacing and in the end it is not as
> clean
> as a FOB because you have signals coming from two different places and you
> are using an extra USB port. I know it is neat to use a Nano but why make
> extra work just to play. I suspect if and when the Nano is supported it
> will
> have limited use compared to just using a USB FOB. As you know the Nano
> does
> not replace the FOB you still need it anyway.
>
> Everyone should buy a supply of these FOBs. They are easy to modify and if
> we get enough on hand we will never have to worry about running out!
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272374780193
>
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:53 PM, "Larry via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > Greetings Doug,
> >
> > I understand all of You and Dave's comments and realize all the effort
> > both of you have put forth to make this a great system.
> >
> > I like Andy, and I'm sure others who have built or bought hardware all
> > sitting at the ready anticipating it's hinted at release with V1.5,
> >
> > None of us are asking you to release or support something you and Dave
> > feel isn't ready.
> > However since at some point You/Dave had a working model (good or bad).
> > Some hint about the intended process (block Diagram, flow chart,
> > modules it needed to utilize it at all) would at least give us a
> > starting place for playing with the interface.
> > If nothing else we might possibly find a use for it not necessarily
> > instantaneous radio control but something useful rather than pitching
> > the hardware.
> >
> > 73
> > Larry - N7FM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/06/2017 09:02 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" wrote:
> >
> >> As Dave has pointed out the Nano interface project is temporarily on
> >> hold mainly because of more pressing issues and family matters but
> >> since its its inception a number of other things have come about. One
> >> is that the fear of not having good USB FOB's has for the most part
> >> gone away. The advent of the open board FOB has somewhat changed
> >> things. It is well made and easy to modify.
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272374780193
> >>
> >> There have also been more and less expensive commercial products
> >> available like the RA-35 -
> >>
> >> http://www.masterscommunications.com/products/radio-adapter/ra35.html
> >>
> >> The USB adapters work fine and of course if you desire there is
> >> always the old standby DMK-URI, the more expensive RIM, etc..
> >>
> >> There are also several people modifying FOBS and selling them and
> >> club projects are doing it on a mass scale. So at this point there is
> >> no shortage of interface products for Allstar. I am not saying the
> >> Nano project is dead but we also cannot say when it might be
> >> available. For that reason I have temporarily removed the link to the
> >> Nano board project on the hamvoip.org web page.
> >>
> >> I have gone through this many time as this often comes up when people
> >> want a cheap and easy way to do things. You can have cheap with a
> >> little work or easy with more cost but not both. Using the GPIO or
> >> Nano require just as much work as modifying the FOB and those methods
> >> have their own issues they are not a panacea either. The amount of
> >> required parts and assembly is actually the same or more using these
> >> methods.
> >>
> >>
> >> *73 Doug*
> >>
> >> *WA3DSP*
> >>
> >> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:36 AM, "David McGough via arm-allstar" <
> >> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Andy,
> >>>
> >>> This project got slowed down due to unanticipated personal
> >>> obligations on my part. No code has been released yet. Hopefully
> >>> we'll have something before too much longer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73, David KB4FXC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, "K1RA - Andy Z via arm-allstar" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>>    I've recently built the Arduino Nano Allstar interface published
> >>>> here
> >>>>
> >>>> http://crompton.com/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
> >>>>
> >>>> and schematic here
> >>>>
> >>>> http://crompton.com/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
> >>>>
> >>> Hamvoip%20Nano%20GPIO%20Interface%20Schematic.pdf
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> but I can't seem to find any reference to the sketch, INO or PDE
> >>>> file
> >>>>
> >>> that
> >>>
> >>>> would represent the code one would download to the device using the
> >>>>
> >>> Arduino
> >>>
> >>>> IDE.  Can anyone post a link to the source? I'm interested in
> >>>>
> >>> experimenting
> >>>
> >>>> with this asap.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks & 73
> >>>>
> >>>> andyz - K1RA
> >>>> http://k1ra.us/
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