[Arm-allstar-irlp] To ALL Hamvoip IRLP users

[Doug Crompton]

Elden,

   IRLP is a closed community that has arcane rules. There was a list of
things that happened that caused the rif and pulling of keys many of which
I won't go into. We did warn users about this and the IRLP rules in the
howto. Allstar is free although we do like donations while IRLP requires a
fee to participate. Apparently users were switching to Hamvoip IRLP and
then selling or giving away their IRLP hardware and the next owner was
fraudulently requesting a key.

If you still have real hardware you can switch back to it and request to
have your key restored by emailing Cameron. Whether he will do that or not
is still not known. The bottom line here is that he and his henchmen run
the system and all you followers have to abide by his rules which are
stated on the IRLP web page. Among other things bridging and anything more
than one on one contacts except through a reflector are prohibited. If you
want to be part of it then that is your choice. None of this nonsense would
ever happen on Allstar. Sometimes you just have to move on.


*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:27 AM "Elden W7LDN via ARM-allstar-irlp" <
arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Gah! I was just thinking a little more about this. And I remember you
> saying there were some specific reasons why keys were being revoked.
> Primarily because of illegitimate key cloning or whatever. So the feature
> was indeed legit until the IRLP folks concluded that things were escalating
> beyond their control in terms of fraudulent activity by a few bad apples?
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:56 PM Elden W7LDN <w7ldn at w7ldn.com> wrote:
>
> > I have to say Doug... when I rebuilt my Allstar node a couple of months
> > ago I was very surprised to see it had IRLP functionality. I assumed you
> > and the IRLP folks had worked out an agreement.
> >
> > But it seems now that this wasn’t the case. I would have never attempted
> > to use that feature of hamvoip had I known that.
> >
> > I think I’m a little curious what the IRLP folks would do if I just
> > plugged my official IRLP hardware back in and then complained to them
> that
> > it wasn’t working (assuming my key has been revoked).
> >
> > Do you think that they feel using the IRLP feature of hamvoip violates
> the
> > IRLP license agreement? And the result is a permanent revocation? I guess
> > we wouldn’t know if they were willing to reinstate one’s key until
> someone
> > tries. I don’t feel very good about my $400 piece of hardware becoming a
> > paperweight because I used what I thought was a legit feature.
> >
> > I’m a little surprised that hamvoip would offer an unauthorized method
> for
> > accessing a network where the folks who run that network are known to be
> > against such things.
> >
> > Was the IRLP feature of hamvoip approved by the IRLP folks at one time
> and
> > then later disapproved?
> >
> > If I am wrong I would very much like to be corrected. I will be the first
> > to admit I know very little of the specifics of the situation. What I
> have
> > said above reflects only what I think I know. I would very much like it
> not
> > to be true.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:53 PM "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar-irlp" <
> > arm-allstar-irlp at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We do not plan on taking out the current IRLP modules from the Hamvoip
> >> code
> >> but if you are running IRLP it is likely your keys were pulled by the
> IRLP
> >> admin.  If this is the case we recommend that you turn off your IRLP by
> >> doing the following two things -
> >>
> >> In the /usr/local/etc/allstar.env  file comment the
> >>
> >> exportIRLP="enabled"
> >>
> >> to
> >>
> >> #exportIRLP="enabled"
> >>
> >> Also you can turn off the IRLP module -
> >>
> >> In the /etc/asterisk/modules.conf file change (uncomment)  -
> >>
> >> ;noload=chan_irlp.so
> >>
> >> to
> >>
> >> noload=chan_irlp.so
> >>
> >> Then reboot for the changes to take effect.
> >>
> >> This will disable your IRLP node. If for some reason you want to
> re-enable
> >> it in the future it is just a matter of reversing these two items.
> >>
> >>
> >> *73 Doug*
> >>
> >> *WA3DSP*
> >>
> >> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
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