[arm-allstar] IPV6

Mon Jan 21 22:02:33 EST 2019

Thanks Benjamin for the input. I am very insulated so the only internet
service we have at home is cellphone data and satellite. Satellite is
worthless for voip. I could shoot a arrow and hit the bird faster then
trying to communicate with it. I've been trying to learn to learn about
tunneling but I'm not sure that would work in my situation. I tried the dig
commands and I got a return that I don't know what that told me. I have
4569 port forwarded to 192.168.0.151 which in one of my pi servers. I have
been able to run a Pi from a friends work and I can SSH and Supermon into
it. That were I keep the Hub at.

Chris Viningre
70 W. Roadrunner
Salt Flat, Texas 79847
C:(915) 504-1510
chrisviningre at gmail.com
Ham Radio Call Sign: WS5B
Allstarlink Nodes:
45789 Southwest US Hub
45796 24h News and Nets

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:27 PM "Benjamin Naber via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Chris et al:
>
> IPv6 is on just about everyone mobile device who is cellular network
> connected. Some providers, in some areas, are only issuing IPv6
> addresses to the wireless devices, and using a IPv6 to IPv4 gateway to
> get to websites and web based services. One such is hamvoip.org and
> ebay.com.
>
> on a Linux or apple box, try it for yourself:
>
> dig a ebay.com
> dig aaaa ebay.com
> dig a hamvoip.org
> dig aaaa hamvoip.org
>
> Mobile cellular data service providers and many residential ISPs only
> give their clients ONE IP address. If the ISP knows what they are doing
> they are dual-stacking - giving one IPv4 and one IPv6 address.
>
> This said, any decent home router such as Microtik, not the junk from
> the ISP, can be used with a dynamic DNS service: freedns, dyn.com,
> dns.he.net.
>
> Many of us are not going to memorize an IPv6 address, especially since
> they are subject to change without notice. An ISP issued IPv6 address
> lease times on them are apparently much shorter than IPv4.
>
> The dynamic DNS service will allow your router to communicate with the
> DNS service to provide a more human suited method of addressing.
> Instead of trying to find something like 2001:1684:435:6afe::feed, your
> DNS service will you to simply use, i.g., pi.ws5b.com
>
>
> As Doug mentioned, for incoming connections, you will need to port
> forward on any router you have access to. Because the ISP's allocate on
> a datalink level an IP address to you, the ports accessible to your
> residential network at home are going to be more controlled - you would
> not believe how many people have no idea what they are doing on a
> computer and really load ISP networks with their serious infected
> computers and devices - just like all the poorly-maintained operating
> cars on the road.
>
> Should you get adventurous, you can create yourself an IPv6 tunnel
> *routed* network to where-ever you have control, and then you will be
> free to do whatever you like. At this time, Hurricane Electric (HE)
> does not close ports; this is up to you to maintain network security.
> And be sure it is there, the Chinese, Vietnamese, and various parts of
> South America have thousands of corrupted, minionized machines that
> WILL un-doubtably try to get into your stuff. I see it every day!
>
>
> he.net is a great place to get seriously confused, but left curious
> enough to know more.
>
>
>
> Benjamin, KB9LFZ
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2019-01-17 at 23:43 -0700,
> > Thanks Doug,
> > This was a question for me to learn more about this stuff. It came up
> > from
> > when I was reading about other services being behind a NAT. I would
> > also
> > like to put in a severance system and They have the same problem.
> > Some have
> > suggested that going to IPV6 they found the ports open. This got me
> > thinking that maybe this could work for my home nodes that are behind
> > a
> > NAT. Using iaxrpt or zoiper  requires cell service. Something we
> > don't have
> > the luxury of having especially mobile. I have manage to get my node
> > to
> > reach 50 miles in some cases and now with the autopatch working I can
> > offer
> > phone service stranded motorist. Even for the sheriff and fire
> > department
> > who is having a communication problem out here. Currently I have a Pi
> > setup
> > up at a data center in Alabama that a friend and fellow ham offered.
> > I have
> > a node there and that takes care of a way for someone to contact me.
> > I'm
> > sending him another Pi and I'll add a 2nd node to my mobile for a
> > back
> > channel for someone to call when I'm not on the hub.
> > Chris Viningre
> > 70 W. Roadrunner
> > Salt Flat, Texas 79847
> > C:(915) 504-1510
> > chrisviningre at gmail.com
> > Ham Radio Call Sign: WS5B
> > Allstarlink Nodes:
> > 45789 Southwest US Hub
> > 45796 24h News and Nets
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:43 PM "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > >  If a port is behind NAT you cannot access it unless the owner of
> > > the NAT
> > > (router) allows you to by forwarding a port. By design router LAN
> > > ports are
> > > isolated from the outside world unless they are authorized. If you
> > > don't
> > > have control over the router inbound ports will not work from the
> > > Internet.
> > > It does not matter if it is IPV$ or IPV6.
> > >
> > > I think I know your situation and if I am right what you should do
> > > is set
> > > up a node at your home on the Internet. Forward ports 222 TCP and
> > > 4569 UDP
> > > in your router. Setup IAXRPT password if you have not already. Then
> > > use
> > > either iaxrpt or zoiper on your phone when you travel or are away
> > > from
> > > home. Using this you would be connected to your home node. You
> > > could also
> > > setup Echolink at home and use it on your phone to connect assuming
> > > where
> > > you want to connect has Echolink. Most hubs and many user nodes
> > > have it.
> > >
> > > Another option is to use a phone hotspot and a node you take with
> > > you. You
> > > do not need any port forwarding to connect out. In this case if you
> > > want to
> > > sked with someone who is calling you have them connect to your home
> > > node
> > > and you connect to your home node from wherever you are.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > > <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > * <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:05 PM "Chris Viningre via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If my provider has IPV6 can this be used to access my hidden node
> > > > from
> > > > behind a NAT?
> > > >
> > > > Chris Viningre
> > > > 70 W. Roadrunner
> > > > Salt Flat, Texas 79847
> > > > C:(915) 504-1510
> > > > chrisviningre at gmail.com
> > > > Ham Radio Call Sign: WS5B
> > > > Allstarlink Nodes:
> > > > 45789 Southwest US Hub
> > > > 45796 24h News and Nets
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