[arm-allstar] Echolink "Un-authorized" connection messages

Mike Sullivan kn4imu at gmail.com
Fri Aug 23 06:36:46 EDT 2019 

I just tried it as I was pulling into the house after getting off work, no
proxy, same thing, four in-sequence database update requests within less
than 10 seconds then the unauthorized message. Next attempt, works fine.
Method of connection is not the problem. It’s the Echolink database not
being updated in time either by failing to be downloaded, or not updating
fast enough to prevent an un-authorized message.

Mike

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 01:53 "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Try not using a proxy. Use you cell Internet, turn off wifi.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:07 AM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > That’s the point I was trying to make. The rate it happens is so
> inaccurate
> > that I don’t know if it’s an error on Echolink’s part, on the database
> > server, on the polling between Hamvoip and the Echolink database, or
> what.
> > Sometimes I can immediately log in and have no problem at all connecting,
> > even after not logging in to Echolink for days. Other times, I can’t log
> in
> > even after waiting X seconds, and as the logs show, either it fails to
> get
> > the database and it checks the last received database, or my node doesn’t
> > appear for whatever reason.
> >
> > That’s why I was also asking what rtcptimeout is for. Maybe it just needs
> > more time to receive a database update from the server before rejecting
> the
> > connection. I feel like anyone that is trying to connect to Echolink &
> sees
> > that they’re unauthorized and thinks they aren’t welcome.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 23:32 "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > There was nothing changed in updates for quite awhile in echolink so I
> > > doubt that has anything to do with it. When your echolink node comes
> > online
> > > it will take a period of time for it to appear in the database.
> Echolink
> > > has had its share of connection problems on and off. Allstar attempts
> to
> > > update the database on connection several times. If it is not there
> after
> > > that it fails but that does not mean you cannot try again a minute or
> two
> > > later. This may also have something to do with proxy connections which
> > may
> > > not always show up in our database.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:27 PM "Steve Polley via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Doug,
> > > >
> > > > I have ran into the problem occasionally also running the latest
> > update.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > > N0SWP
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:54 PM "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > >  Dave could give more details on this but from what you say if you
> > are
> > > > > getting the database then you should be registered with Echolink.
> It
> > > > sounds
> > > > > like that message would be issued if you were not registered. Are
> you
> > > in
> > > > > the database that gets downloaded? Echolink has three possible
> > > variations
> > > > > for your call - W3XYZ, W3XYZ-L, and W3XYZ-R. Each can have a
> > different
> > > > > password or they all can be the same only one can be used per
> > distinct
> > > > > public IP address. At this time no one else has reported this issue
> > so
> > > it
> > > > > seems it might be connected to something going on within your
> system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > >
> > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > >
> > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:50 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar" <
> > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Back when I was first setting up our club's Allstar node, I was
> > > > > reporting
> > > > > > on an issue where Echolink would report that I was un-authorized
> to
> > > > > connect
> > > > > > to the node, but subsequent attempts, I was able to connect
> fine. I
> > > > > figured
> > > > > > this was just a fluke with our node, but I set up a second node
> at
> > > > > another
> > > > > > club's tower, which runs through an OpenVPN tunnel instead of a
> > > direct
> > > > > > cable connection. Both nodes have the same problem, just not
> > > > constantly.
> > > > > > Most times I have no problem, but there will be the occasional
> time
> > > > that
> > > > > it
> > > > > > fails to connect and says I'm un-authorized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In checking the Allstar log on either node after this happens, I
> > see
> > > > > > multiple subsequent requests for a database update when it does
> > fail.
> > > > The
> > > > > > failed attempts are separated 2 seconds apart, and can be
> anywhere
> > > from
> > > > > 4-8
> > > > > > times I have seen, but always result in a failed connection.
> Other
> > > > times
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is just a single DB update and no problem connecting. Running
> > > 'echolink
> > > > > > dbdump' in CLI produces a valid database.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could this be an issue on Echolink's database end, or is there
> > > > something
> > > > > I
> > > > > > can do with Allstar to ensure the node updates more regularly? I
> > > can't
> > > > > find
> > > > > > any other evidence listed. I've attached copies of the logs
> below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Failed attempt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Aug 22 19:45:16] NOTICE[27272] chan_echolink.c: Cannot find DB
> > entry
> > > > > > for Callsign: KN4IMU, IP: H��v103.85.188. Requesting DB update.
> > > > > > [Aug 22 19:45:18] NOTICE[27272] chan_echolink.c: Cannot find DB
> > entry
> > > > > > for Callsign: KN4IMU, IP:  ��v103.85.188. Requesting DB update.
> > > > > > [Aug 22 19:45:20] NOTICE[27272] chan_echolink.c: Cannot find DB
> > entry
> > > > > > for Callsign: KN4IMU, IP: p��v103.85.188. Requesting DB update.
> > > > > > [Aug 22 19:45:22] NOTICE[27272] chan_echolink.c: Cannot find DB
> > entry
> > > > > > for Callsign: KN4IMU, IP: н�v103.85.188. Requesting DB update.
> > > > > > Successful attempt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Aug 22 19:55:08] NOTICE[27272] chan_echolink.c: Cannot find DB
> > entry
> > > > > > for Callsign: KN4IMU, IP: 0��v103.85.188. Requesting DB update.
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