[arm-allstar] Using Allstar as a digital voter system

Fri Aug 2 20:22:09 EDT 2019

Puget Sound Repeater Group implemented an Allstar/RTCM voting system in
2018.
Details are here: https://web.psrg.org/psrg-voting-system/

Its been very successful.  We are currently running 5 receivers and have
had up to 7 online at a time without issues.
Voters are running on Raspberry Pi's which are just coasting.  There is no
load issue.

Check out the realtime display at:
http://voter.psrg.org/supermon/voter.php?node=2462

-Doug-, KD7DK
PSRG President

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 4:10 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> That would be the purpose of the linked 440 repeaters, our club has used
> the same frequency and PL for years, and a voter system would not only be
> cool to tinker with, but alleviate the issue of trying to remember which PL
> goes where. Yes, that method would be a lot cheaper (crossband repeating
> radios and dual band antennas) but I’m all for changing the game. A voter
> system would be a lot cooler to work on, we’re planning on building a
> regional point-to-point network along with a link to a DMR system that does
> the same thing.
>
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 18:55 "Tom Eaton via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > If the mobile users know there are multiple receive sites they use the
> site
> > that they are closest to. There is a 6 meter repeater in Ohio that has
> five
> > received sites that works well for them over a voting system.
> >
> > Tom, KC4CBQ
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 6:39 PM "John Simmons via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > How does the mobile user know which site's PL to use?
> > >
> > > -John NI0K
> > >
> > > "Tom Eaton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > Just use a different pl at each rx site.
> > > >
> > > > Tom, KC4CBQ
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 5:45 PM "Steve L via ARM-allstar"<
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Steve, W9SH had a "simple voter" that required no hardware.  I was
> > > >> always tempted to give it a try.
> > > >>
> > > >> His site is down, and I am not where he is these days in terms of
> > > >> development:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170306120829/http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:55 PM "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar"
> > > >> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > >>> Here is a link to the RTCM which as far as I know the only current
> > > device
> > > >>> that would interface the remote sites to the main repeater site.
> You
> > > are
> > > >>> right the cost per site would be the RTCM plus GPS and of course
> you
> > > need
> > > >>> Internet at each site. The receivers also need to be level and
> > passband
> > > >>> equalized (matched) for it to perform properly.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There is probably other info out there on this. I just did a quick
> > > >> search.
> > > >>> *73 Doug*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *WA3DSP*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio<http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> >*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:18 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar"<
> > > >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I figured I was missing something. Is the RTCM the only interface
> > that
> > > >>>> reliably supports it? At $269 apiece, that's gonna hurt the
> wallet,
> > on
> > > >> top
> > > >>>> of setting up the PtP linking to make it work standalone.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Is there a Howto? That would probably brush up my questions on
> it..
> > > >> lol.
> > > >>>> Mainly, I'm assuming each receive radio needs an RTCM, as well as
> > the
> > > >>>> repeater receiver? We are upgrading our 2 meter machine with an
> > > >> amplifier
> > > >>>> and new (to us) hardline, once that is done we're hoping to put a
> > > >> couple
> > > >>>> receivers up to cover dead spots and improve handheld reception.
> > We're
> > > >> also
> > > >>>> probably going to put up a couple Allstar-linked 440 machines at
> > those
> > > >>>> sites too, for local coverage.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Mike
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 13:55 "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar"<
> > > >>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Voting has been part of Allstar for years and is included in the
> > > >> hamvoip
> > > >>>>> release. You need hardware to do it - typically an RTCM and GPS.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> *73 Doug*
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> *WA3DSP*
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio<
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > > >>> *
> > > >>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:53 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar"<
> > > >>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'm curious, has anyone ever thought of, or attempted a voter
> type
> > > >>>> system
> > > >>>>>> using Allstar? I.E. using Allstar as local nodes to several
> > > >> receivers,
> > > >>>>>> digitally analyzing signal strength, and Allstar picking the
> > > >> strongest
> > > >>>>>> signal to pass on to the repeater? Would be an interesting and
> > > >>>>> inexpensive
> > > >>>>>> concept, I would think.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Or, am I an idiot and just missed the Howto on that?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Mike
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