[arm-allstar] correction about flite ---was:AUTOSKY

[Doug Crompton]

OK, can we please end the off topic discussion of FCC rules, etc. This is
an Allstar list and has MANY members that don't want to hear an argument
about FCC rules. Please limit the discussion to the topic of hamvoip
Allstar whenever possible. It is up to each individual to read and
understand FCC rules pertaining to amateur radio. I am sure there are other
forums that cover that topic. Remember the opinion of the FCC is what
matters not your opinion!


*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:07 PM, "Chris Perrine(KB2FAF) via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> I was going to point this out so thank you.  As far as I am concerned
> occasional means a weather warning or watch.  I have been re-broadcasting
> NOAA weather warnings for 20 years on local repeaters and do not feel my
> license is in peril.
>
>
> Chris
>
> KB2FAF
>
>
>
>
> On 05/16/2018 11:52 AM, "John Huggins via arm-allstar" wrote:
>
>> Your point is well taken, but 97.113 (5) (c) offers a loophole.
>>
>> (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from any
>> type
>> of radio station other than an amateur station, *except propagation and
>> weather forecast information intended for use by the general public and
>> originated from United States Government stations*, and communications,
>> including incidental music, originating on United States Government
>> frequencies between a manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations.
>> Prior approval for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must
>> be
>> obtained from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such
>> retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio
>> operators. *Propagation,
>> weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft communications retransmissions
>> may
>> not be conducted on a regular basis, but only occasionally, as an incident
>> of normal amateur radio communications.*
>>
>> Emphasis added.
>>
>> Of course AutoSky doesn't re-broadcast the NOAA VHF broadcast verbatim
>> (although that's probably fine given 97.113-5-c), but transmits NOAA
>> information from a NOAA data source via web site query. Yeah we are all a
>> bit ahead of the Part 97 technologically, but the case can be made we are
>> probably okay.
>>
>> As for my second emphasized portion above, the phrase "but only
>> occasionally" is an important tip. I think AutoSky improves on this
>> immensely with a double advantage by only...
>>
>>     - broadcasting thrifty summaries of important weather details as
>>     composed and published by NOAA and,
>>     - directing a user to find out more elsewhere.
>>
>> If anything AutoSky is likely more rules compliant, by being less in you
>> face, than the folks who just pipe the NOAA broadcast out their repeater.
>>
>> Now if HAMVOIP introduced AutoMarket that announces advantageous stock
>> market details, well that might cross the line. ;)
>>
>> I think it is important to note when the bad weather boogieman comes a
>> callin unbeknownst to the commuter monitoring their local repeater, having
>> that repeater relay NOAA warnings ensures the commuter hears the news as
>> well as someone listening to radio station programming or their MP3
>> collection.
>>
>> John, kx4o
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:13 AM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" <
>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>
>>> *§97.113   Prohibited transmissions.*
>>>
>>> (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be
>>>
>> furnished
>>
>>> alternatively through other radio services.
>>>
>>> (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting,
>>> ...."
>>>
>>> Is this "AutoSky" even legal? Since you mention legality... seems that
>>> could be done over other services, cellular connection, business radio
>>> service, NOAA weather radio offers alerts etc... just saying...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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