[arm-allstar] correction about flite ---was:AUTOSKY

Chris Perrine(KB2FAF) kb2faf at arrl.net
Wed May 16 11:07:13 EST 2018


I was going to point this out so thank you.  As far as I am concerned 
occasional means a weather warning or watch.  I have been 
re-broadcasting NOAA weather warnings for 20 years on local repeaters 
and do not feel my license is in peril.


Chris

KB2FAF




On 05/16/2018 11:52 AM, "John Huggins via arm-allstar" wrote:
> Your point is well taken, but 97.113 (5) (c) offers a loophole.
>
> (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from any type
> of radio station other than an amateur station, *except propagation and
> weather forecast information intended for use by the general public and
> originated from United States Government stations*, and communications,
> including incidental music, originating on United States Government
> frequencies between a manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations.
> Prior approval for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be
> obtained from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such
> retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio
> operators. *Propagation,
> weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft communications retransmissions may
> not be conducted on a regular basis, but only occasionally, as an incident
> of normal amateur radio communications.*
>
> Emphasis added.
>
> Of course AutoSky doesn't re-broadcast the NOAA VHF broadcast verbatim
> (although that's probably fine given 97.113-5-c), but transmits NOAA
> information from a NOAA data source via web site query. Yeah we are all a
> bit ahead of the Part 97 technologically, but the case can be made we are
> probably okay.
>
> As for my second emphasized portion above, the phrase "but only
> occasionally" is an important tip. I think AutoSky improves on this
> immensely with a double advantage by only...
>
>     - broadcasting thrifty summaries of important weather details as
>     composed and published by NOAA and,
>     - directing a user to find out more elsewhere.
>
> If anything AutoSky is likely more rules compliant, by being less in you
> face, than the folks who just pipe the NOAA broadcast out their repeater.
>
> Now if HAMVOIP introduced AutoMarket that announces advantageous stock
> market details, well that might cross the line. ;)
>
> I think it is important to note when the bad weather boogieman comes a
> callin unbeknownst to the commuter monitoring their local repeater, having
> that repeater relay NOAA warnings ensures the commuter hears the news as
> well as someone listening to radio station programming or their MP3
> collection.
>
> John, kx4o
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:13 AM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>> *§97.113   Prohibited transmissions.*
>>
>> (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be
> furnished
>> alternatively through other radio services.
>>
>> (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, ...."
>>
>> Is this "AutoSky" even legal? Since you mention legality... seems that
>> could be done over other services, cellular connection, business radio
>> service, NOAA weather radio offers alerts etc... just saying...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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