[arm-allstar] correction about flite ---was:AUTOSKY

Wed May 16 10:31:07 EST 2018

Yes, we have been through this many times on this forum as this crops up
from time to time. It is NOT legal to directly rebroadcast another services
transmissions like NOAA weather radio but it is OK to convert the text they
transmit to speech and transmit it. Like anything getting carried away and
annoying people is usually what gets you in trouble. That is why a 5 minute
weather forecast on a repeater or busy hub would certainly be frowned on.
AutoSky is nice in that it gives a very brief nag warning that alerts you
that something is up. Users then have a myriad of ways to get further info
from other services.

*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:13 AM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> *§97.113   Prohibited transmissions.*
>
> "
>
> (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furnished
> alternatively through other radio services.
>
> (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, ...."
>
> Is this "AutoSky" even legal? Since you mention legality... seems that
> could be done over other services, cellular connection, business radio
> service, NOAA weather radio offers alerts etc... just saying...
>
>
>
>
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> ****
>
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>
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> *None. It's a hardware problem.*
>
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>
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>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:08 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > It is easy to get the text but unfortunately the problem with anything
> that
> > verbally translates text with any quality is that you usually need a paid
> > package to do it. I see this one uses Cepstral which does have a voice
> for
> > the Pi BUT did you know that according to Cepstral rules it is illegal to
> > broadcast their voices over the air without a special license? This
> > includes amateur radio. The broadcast license cost several years ago was
> > something like $120. So make sure you check the fine print with anything
> > you use. Cepstral is a good choice but this is exactly why we did not
> > promote it several years ago. I do not expect users to shell out that
> kind
> > of money and if we promoted it we would be obligated to tell the users
> > that.
> >
> > I will also go back to my argument for not doing this and why it was
> maybe
> > more appropriate years ago. Today everyone has a smartphone, tablet,
> > computer, etc. with weather alerts and forecasts. So why do we need more
> > than simple alerts on amateur radio. If you want weather there are a
> > zillion ways to get it. Most hand-held's have the government weather
> > channels. Yes, it might be neat to pull up weather on amateur radio but
> do
> > we really need it? There are other ways to get it.
> >
> >
> > *73 Doug*
> >
> > *WA3DSP*
> >
> > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:45 PM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I actually created a system for weather by zip code (DTMF) I can pull
> up
> > > almost any zip code in the country.
> > > https://markjohnston.us/sample-page/ham-radio/allstar-
> > > projects-scripts/wx-scripts/
> > > Yes it is possible...
> > > Sorry I didn't see your email in the group message...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **** North West Hub Allstar Node 2295 <http://www.markjohnston.us/
> nwhub>
> > > ****
> > >
> > > "Got Root?"
> > >
> > > How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
> > > *None. It's a hardware problem.*
> > >
> > > The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s².
> > >
> > > *"I get paid to support Windows, I use Linux to get work done."*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:05 PM, "Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks will check it out. Not sure how to use it yet or if it will
> > change
> > > > any existing voices but I think if we can get a script to read the
> > > > <summary> tag in the xml that gets retrieved and let’s say play it
> > every
> > > > 6hours or 12,24 that could be pretty neat.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > > KD2NFC
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On May 15, 2018, at 3:58 PM, David McGough via arm-allstar <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The packages with the voices where named incorrectly in my original
> > > > > post.  The actual names are:
> > > > >
> > > > > pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-female-voices
> > > > >
> > > > > pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-male-voices
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 73, David KB4FXC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Tue, 15 May 2018, "David McGough via arm-allstar" wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> BTW, for anyone wanting to experiment, back in 7/2016 I built
> > packages
> > > > >> for the Festival Lite (flite) version 2.0.0 TTS software. The
> > software
> > > > >> works well, but with the voice quality is fair at best. Commercial
> > > > >> software voice quality is at least an order of magnitude better.
> > But,
> > > > >> flite is usable. I noticed back in 12/2017 that the flite software
> > has
> > > > >> been updated to version 2.1.0. I haven't investigated what has
> > > > changed??
> > > > >> Anyone know?? If there is interest, I'll update the hamvoip
> package
> > to
> > > > >> 2.1.0.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To get the current flite software, just:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And, some "better" quality voices:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-female
> > > > >>
> > > > >> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-male
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73, David KB4FXC
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Tue, 15 May 2018, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bill,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A summary weather report is very possible BUT the problem is good
> > text
> > > > to
> > > > >> speech for free. The non-free ones don't sound that good and the
> > > > semi-free
> > > > >> ones like google are a pain that not everyone would want to do.
> That
> > > is
> > > > why
> > > > >> we took weather other than short snippets out of the code awhile
> > back.
> > > > >> Goggle use to be free and easy to use and at least for awhile we
> > > enjoyed
> > > > >> it. People want free, easy, and good quality. It is hard to get
> all
> > > > three.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is a current weather condition not forecast script I wrote
> out
> > > > there
> > > > >> -  wx_condition.sh <AirportDesignator or -wWundergroundCode>
> <node>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ex.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> wx_condtion.sh KPHL 4000
> > > > >> wx_condition.sh -wPAPHL12 40000
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Run wx_condition.sh   with no parameters for more examples.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A forecast is hard because you really need to use TTS and peopl
> want
> > > it
> > > > to
> > > > >> be understandable!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *73 Doug*
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *WA3DSP*
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/
> hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:57 PM, "Mr. Possum (Bill) via
> > arm-allstar" <
> > > > >> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I agree with Doug, it is supposed to a bare minimum alert system
> -
> > to
> > > > prod
> > > > >>> you to go look at other sources...  Making the repeater become a
> > > > "chatty
> > > > >>> kathy" would get tiresome for some users...
> > > > >>> However, I sort of agree with you though, to a point, I have
> wished
> > > and
> > > > >>> dreamed of a simple zip code based "summary weather report" for
> the
> > > > next 24
> > > > >>> hours that could be called up by a touch tone command...  I am
> not
> > a
> > > > >>> programmer and I have no idea if such a thing is even possible.
> > But
> > > a
> > > > guy
> > > > >>> can dream, right?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> But in this scenario - out on the local lake, sitting in a boat,
> it
> > > > would
> > > > >>> be nice to be able to bring up a "summary weather report" via
> touch
> > > > tones
> > > > >>> between casts and hauling "that big one" into the boat...  I
> think
> > > that
> > > > >>> would be downright handy!
> > > > >>> However, in reality, I could just do the same thing on my android
> > > > phone in
> > > > >>> a few minutes in between casts...  And it would be heck of a lot
> > > > better and
> > > > >>> more detailed than anything someone could make our repeaters do
> > with
> > > > voice
> > > > >>> from text.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> But AutoSky does do a good job of being the "alert system" to
> prod
> > me
> > > > to
> > > > >>> go look at my smart phone and look at weather underground...  And
> > we
> > > > have
> > > > >>> been grateful for it.  It is a valued part of our repeater
> systems.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Bill - N5MBMwww.n5mbm.net
> > > > >>>      From: "KD2NFC, Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >
> > > > >>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > > >>> Cc: "KD2NFC, Joe Puma" <kd2nfc at gmail.com>
> > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:20 PM
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AUTOSKY
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Doug,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> OK well yes I am hearing some new weather updates, we are having
> a
> > > > storm
> > > > >>> this evening and I am getting an update for severe weather.
> Pretty
> > > > cool but
> > > > >>> with such a lovely voice it would be nice to hear autosky talk
> some
> > > > more.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Joe
> > > > >>> Kd2nfc
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On May 15, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <
> > > > >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Joe,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> AutoSky is working. When you hear "Special Weather Statement" it
> > is
> > > > >>>> because the current statement is not mapped. There are about 48
> > > mapped
> > > > >>>> situations like "Severe Thunderstorm Warning" etc. If AutoSky
> does
> > > not
> > > > >>> have
> > > > >>>> a mapping for the statement it just says "Special Weather
> > statement"
> > > > All
> > > > >>>> of the major statements are covered. The idea is to alert you
> > there
> > > is
> > > > >>>> something going on your should check on or be aware of and you
> > > should
> > > > >>> check
> > > > >>>> other sources to see what it is. Alert text is stored in
> > > /tmp/AUTOSKY.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> *73 Doug*
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> *WA3DSP*
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/
> > hamradio
> > > >*
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:56 AM, "Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
> > > > >>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Can someone tell me if Autosky is working? I have it set up
> right
> > > > and I
> > > > >>>>> hear things like “special weather alert” and all clear but I
> > don’t
> > > > >>> actually
> > > > >>>>> hear the body or summary of the special weather alert. I know
> its
> > > > >>> pulling
> > > > >>>>> in xml data but why no workie?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Joe
> > > > >>>>> KD2NFC
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> > > > >>>>>
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