[arm-allstar] correction about flite ---was:AUTOSKY

Tony Ross ynotssor at yahoo.com
Wed May 16 09:50:01 EST 2018 

Thank you for reminding everyone, Mark. My toes curl when I read such 
threads as this, where folks seem to casually disregard or ignore the 
Part 97 rules.

On 05/16/2018 06:13 AM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" wrote:
> *§97.113   Prohibited transmissions.*
>
> "
>
> (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furnished
> alternatively through other radio services.
>
> (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, ...."
>
> Is this "AutoSky" even legal? Since you mention legality... seems that
> could be done over other services, cellular connection, business radio
> service, NOAA weather radio offers alerts etc... just saying...
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:08 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
>> It is easy to get the text but unfortunately the problem with anything that
>> verbally translates text with any quality is that you usually need a paid
>> package to do it. I see this one uses Cepstral which does have a voice for
>> the Pi BUT did you know that according to Cepstral rules it is illegal to
>> broadcast their voices over the air without a special license? This
>> includes amateur radio. The broadcast license cost several years ago was
>> something like $120. So make sure you check the fine print with anything
>> you use. Cepstral is a good choice but this is exactly why we did not
>> promote it several years ago. I do not expect users to shell out that kind
>> of money and if we promoted it we would be obligated to tell the users
>> that.
>>
>> I will also go back to my argument for not doing this and why it was maybe
>> more appropriate years ago. Today everyone has a smartphone, tablet,
>> computer, etc. with weather alerts and forecasts. So why do we need more
>> than simple alerts on amateur radio. If you want weather there are a
>> zillion ways to get it. Most hand-held's have the government weather
>> channels. Yes, it might be neat to pull up weather on amateur radio but do
>> we really need it? There are other ways to get it.
>>
>>
>> *73 Doug*
>>
>> *WA3DSP*
>>
>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:45 PM, "Mark Johnston via arm-allstar" <
>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I actually created a system for weather by zip code (DTMF) I can pull up
>>> almost any zip code in the country.
>>> https://markjohnston.us/sample-page/ham-radio/allstar-
>>> projects-scripts/wx-scripts/
>>> Yes it is possible...
>>> Sorry I didn't see your email in the group message...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **** North West Hub Allstar Node 2295 <http://www.markjohnston.us/nwhub>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> "Got Root?"
>>>
>>> How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb?
>>> *None. It's a hardware problem.*
>>>
>>> The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s².
>>>
>>> *"I get paid to support Windows, I use Linux to get work done."*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:05 PM, "Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks will check it out. Not sure how to use it yet or if it will
>> change
>>>> any existing voices but I think if we can get a script to read the
>>>> <summary> tag in the xml that gets retrieved and let’s say play it
>> every
>>>> 6hours or 12,24 that could be pretty neat.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> KD2NFC
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On May 15, 2018, at 3:58 PM, David McGough via arm-allstar <
>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The packages with the voices where named incorrectly in my original
>>>>> post.  The actual names are:
>>>>>
>>>>> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-female-voices
>>>>>
>>>>> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-male-voices
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018, "David McGough via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, for anyone wanting to experiment, back in 7/2016 I built
>> packages
>>>>>> for the Festival Lite (flite) version 2.0.0 TTS software. The
>> software
>>>>>> works well, but with the voice quality is fair at best. Commercial
>>>>>> software voice quality is at least an order of magnitude better.
>> But,
>>>>>> flite is usable. I noticed back in 12/2017 that the flite software
>> has
>>>>>> been updated to version 2.1.0. I haven't investigated what has
>>>> changed??
>>>>>> Anyone know?? If there is interest, I'll update the hamvoip package
>> to
>>>>>> 2.1.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To get the current flite software, just:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, some "better" quality voices:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-female
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pacman -Sy hamvoip-flite-arctic-male
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 May 2018, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>> A summary weather report is very possible BUT the problem is good
>> text
>>>> to
>>>>>> speech for free. The non-free ones don't sound that good and the
>>>> semi-free
>>>>>> ones like google are a pain that not everyone would want to do. That
>>> is
>>>> why
>>>>>> we took weather other than short snippets out of the code awhile
>> back.
>>>>>> Goggle use to be free and easy to use and at least for awhile we
>>> enjoyed
>>>>>> it. People want free, easy, and good quality. It is hard to get all
>>>> three.
>>>>>> There is a current weather condition not forecast script I wrote out
>>>> there
>>>>>> -  wx_condition.sh <AirportDesignator or -wWundergroundCode>  <node>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wx_condtion.sh KPHL 4000
>>>>>> wx_condition.sh -wPAPHL12 40000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run wx_condition.sh   with no parameters for more examples.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A forecast is hard because you really need to use TTS and peopl want
>>> it
>>>> to
>>>>>> be understandable!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 2:57 PM, "Mr. Possum (Bill) via
>> arm-allstar" <
>>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Doug, it is supposed to a bare minimum alert system -
>> to
>>>> prod
>>>>>>> you to go look at other sources...  Making the repeater become a
>>>> "chatty
>>>>>>> kathy" would get tiresome for some users...
>>>>>>> However, I sort of agree with you though, to a point, I have wished
>>> and
>>>>>>> dreamed of a simple zip code based "summary weather report" for the
>>>> next 24
>>>>>>> hours that could be called up by a touch tone command...  I am not
>> a
>>>>>>> programmer and I have no idea if such a thing is even possible.
>> But
>>> a
>>>> guy
>>>>>>> can dream, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But in this scenario - out on the local lake, sitting in a boat, it
>>>> would
>>>>>>> be nice to be able to bring up a "summary weather report" via touch
>>>> tones
>>>>>>> between casts and hauling "that big one" into the boat...  I think
>>> that
>>>>>>> would be downright handy!
>>>>>>> However, in reality, I could just do the same thing on my android
>>>> phone in
>>>>>>> a few minutes in between casts...  And it would be heck of a lot
>>>> better and
>>>>>>> more detailed than anything someone could make our repeaters do
>> with
>>>> voice
>>>>>>> from text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But AutoSky does do a good job of being the "alert system" to prod
>> me
>>>> to
>>>>>>> go look at my smart phone and look at weather underground...  And
>> we
>>>> have
>>>>>>> been grateful for it.  It is a valued part of our repeater systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill - N5MBMwww.n5mbm.net
>>>>>>>       From: "KD2NFC, Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: "KD2NFC, Joe Puma" <kd2nfc at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:20 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AUTOSKY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK well yes I am hearing some new weather updates, we are having a
>>>> storm
>>>>>>> this evening and I am getting an update for severe weather. Pretty
>>>> cool but
>>>>>>> with such a lovely voice it would be nice to hear autosky talk some
>>>> more.
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> Kd2nfc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <
>>>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AutoSky is working. When you hear "Special Weather Statement" it
>> is
>>>>>>>> because the current statement is not mapped. There are about 48
>>> mapped
>>>>>>>> situations like "Severe Thunderstorm Warning" etc. If AutoSky does
>>> not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a mapping for the statement it just says "Special Weather
>> statement"
>>>> All
>>>>>>>> of the major statements are covered. The idea is to alert you
>> there
>>> is
>>>>>>>> something going on your should check on or be aware of and you
>>> should
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>> other sources to see what it is. Alert text is stored in
>>> /tmp/AUTOSKY.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/
>> hamradio
>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:56 AM, "Joe Puma via arm-allstar" <
>>>>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can someone tell me if Autosky is working? I have it set up right
>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>> hear things like “special weather alert” and all clear but I
>> don’t
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> hear the body or summary of the special weather alert. I know its
>>>>>>> pulling
>>>>>>>>> in xml data but why no workie?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>> KD2NFC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>>>>
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