[arm-allstar] Private Nodes

Wed Jul 11 00:04:31 EST 2018

David,

 If all the private nodes are just connecting to the one hub and not to
each other then yes, you can just have the address and port at each private
node to the hub but the hub would need to have the list of all of the
private node addresses and ports to be able to get back to them. The hub
can stay public.

Before you start doing this make sure you have everything ready and it is
really what you want to do. If these nodes are out on the Internet it could
get complicated. You need to know how to get to them and IP addresses can
change so you would need to use dynDNS for reliability at each site unless
you have full control of IP's like in a private IP system. If not I
caution that you should think this out because you might be creating just
another problem.

Both of these issues, public and private will go away once the hamvoip
registration system is in place so maybe you could hang on just a little
longer the way you are as that is going to happen fairly soon.

*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:48 AM, David <david at kg5rdf.com> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Thank you for the information, it is most helpful. I will start the
> process tomorrow. I missed the extensions.conf requirement, so I will use
> the automated process.
>
> The new registration and DNS system sounds great! The DNS charges you
> recommended work great.
>
> I am assuming, I can start converting the 15 linked nodes and keep the hub
> public, as long as the hub knows the address for each private node? I say
> this because my Aredn private nodes, can connect to my my public nodes, on
> my network.
>
> I would convert the hub last and do a manual change to a private node, so
> the address are not overwritten in rpt.conf.
>
> I should  kick myself for not doing this first.
>
> Thanks David KG5RDF
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Date: 7/10/18 11:16 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Private Nodes
>
> Dave,
>
>   Allstar can be and often is run totally private. You could even run
> Allstar privately without a ham license. It could be used in other services
> or for other purposes. In Amaateur radio private nodes are often used to
> link repeaters or internal nodes.
>
> You do not have to be registered for Allstar to work privately. In fact you
> leave out the registration line altogether. Private node numbers are
> between 1000 and 1999 and as long a you don't duplicate within your own
> system you can use any number you desire.
>
> The setup procedure - node-config.sh asks if you are setting up a private
> node and that would be the best way to do it but you can do it manually if
> desired. The problem is you need to make sure everything is changed
> properly. You would need to use nano to change the old node number to the
> new in rpt.conf and extensions.conf and remove or comment the registration
> line in iax.conf. You can certainly do it this way but I would recommend
> just using node-config.sh
>
> When you are using private nodes you need to do your own routing and of
> course port forwarding if the connection is outside of your LAN. This is
> done in the [nodes] stanza towards the end of rpt.conf. Both ends (servers)
> have to know how to get to each other including the iax port. The iax port
> is defined in iax.conf as the bindport. If the bindport is different than
> the default 569 it needs to be included in any routing statement - like
> 100.150.200.250:4570
>
> We will be rolling out a new registration and DNS system that will allow
> private nodes to be privately and securely registered thus allowing secure
> lookup from the DNS node registry of your private nodes. This will make it
> much easier for those using private nodes to manage them as it gets
> complicated to keep tracking of addresses manually. That isn't here yet so
> for now you will have to do that manually.
>
> This howto from the hamvoip.org web page will give you more information on
> the addressing and port forwarding.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:33 PM, "David via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > I believe I understand the requirements in rpt.conf for address and
> > removal of allstarlink.org reporting. I also assume you remove the
> > registration line in iax.conf. Is there a simple way to change to a
> private
> > node, without running the first time script or does the above take care
> of
> > it?
> > Thanks David
> > -------- Original message --------From: David McGough via arm-allstar <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> Date: 7/10/18  10:01 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: David
> > via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> Cc: David McGough <
> > kb4fxc at inttek.net>, David <david at customperformanceracing.net> Subject:
> > Re: [arm-allstar] Private Nodes
> >
> > Yes, you are correct.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, "David via arm-allstar" wrote:
> >
> > > IÂ Just want to verify that private nodes operate independently of
> > Allstarlink.org?Â
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