[arm-allstar] HAMVOIP Statement

[Justin Reed]

It funny how the ASL bunch will criticize HamVoip but you NEVER see them attack MicroNode for not releasing their Allstar source. And theirs is ACTUALLY closed. What a bunch of hacks.

Ok I’ll shut up.

NV8Q

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> Because some of you subscribe to the app-rpt mailing list as well as this
> one and I never respond on that list I am compelled to respond to a recent
> message on that list by a certain individual regarding the hamvoip software.
> 
> This is not the first time this has happened and probably will not be the
> last. In his messages he calls us (hamvoip) and specifically Dave, KB4FXC
> criminals which anyone with a sound mind would realize is totally untrue.
> He also accuses us of having some kind of nefarious code that he supposes
> is somehow doing bad things and encourages people to use the ASL code. Let
> me present some facts here. Facts are important but somehow in today's
> society are not valued.
> 
> Dave, KB4FXC is in my opinion an outstanding programmer and his knowledge
> of Allstar and how to improve it is years ahead of anyone out there.
> Together we created Hamvoip and we were the first to put Allstar on a small
> board computer five years ago starting with the BeagleBone Black and a year
> later the Raspberry Pi. At that point we had the full support of Jim Dixon
> in doing so. Today hamvoip is fully 70%+ of the Allstar market and growing
> daily. We have made revolutionary changes to the code and will continue to
> do so with many planned and significant updates coming soon.
> 
> ASL which is just ACID as Jim left it several years ago with some wrappers
> around it has none of the enhancements, bug fixes, etc. that the hamvoip
> code has. All this open source BS that some of the Allstar group professes
> has not produced one significant update in that code, On the other hand
> hamvoip has been very responsive to both users needs and any bugs that are
> found in the code with timely updates to address those issues. With ASL
> what you have is what you get and even a seasoned 'C' programmer would have
> problems with the "spaghetti" and in many cases poorly written apt_rpt
> code. Our goal is to fix that as we have been and will continue to do in
> future releases.
> 
> The unnamed individual (and others) who thought they represented Allstar
> moved in quickly with the void caused by the death of Jim Dixon and in our
> opinion illegally took over domains and servers without the knowledge of
> how to run them causing havoc over the last several years. Fortunately we
> picked up the slack and created our own servers which has kept Allstar
> running at times when theirs failed. We plan to continue to support the
> Allstar community and in particular our loyal hamvoip users.
> 
> I am NOT looking for comments on this and in fact we do moderate our list
> so I don't want and won't let this get into a big discussion which most
> don't want to hear. I am sure you all have your opinions. My purpose here
> was to present some facts to those who continually see this BS from some in
> the Allstar group from various sources outside of this list and wonder just
> what is going on. My opinion is that they are jealous. We do things well
> and we do things right. We are respectful to our users and appreciate they
> are there. You are the Allstar community not some self appointed board that
> has little real impact and actually causes more problems then help.
> 
> Unfortunately app_rpt does not moderate their list and they let this
> garbage go out which only hurts the reputation of Allstar in general.
> 
> I can honestly say that Allstar would not be anywhere near where it is
> today without the efforts of the hamvoip community.  Thank you for your
> continued support.
> 
> 
> *73 Doug*
> 
> *WA3DSP*
> 
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