[arm-allstar] AllStar thru foreign country

[Charles Powell]

I have heard some interesting discussions about the inadequacy of the rules governing radio.  For example, there was a note from an RAC official on another forum stating that it *is not* legal for a US operator to run a remote HF station in Canada.  Theoretically, I suppose Allstar falls into the category of remote operation, since being connected to a node likely involves transmitting RF somewhere in Canada.  But no one has ever said anything about Allstar or IRLP to my knowledge.  

As for a Canadian taking a node into the US, it’s definitely legal so long as you comply with all Canadian and US laws (whichever is more restrictive).  If the station ID is legal (every 10 minutes in the US - I forget what the rule is in Canada) you can run as many HF/VHF/UHF transmitters as you like PROVIDED YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF CANADA, you hold a Canadian license, and you do not hold a US license.  The reciprocal operating agreement places the restriction of citizenship in the country of licensure where those agreements apply (and it does for a Canadian in the US).   I have a Canadian call, but a double whammy that does not allow me to use that call in the US.  First, I am not a Canadian citizen.  Second, I hold a US license and once you have that, you are not legally entitled to use any other call. As for Allstar, bring it along and have fun.

73,

Charles - NK8O
VE3ISD
5H3DX

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Lee Woldanski via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> I think as long as you have a valid license, the rest is moot. :)
> 
> The rules and regulations were drafted before the internet, and in most
> cases, have not been updated to reflect such changes in the world, such as
> RoIP.
> 
> I am quite sure ISED and the FCC have bigger fish to fry than how your node
> ID's.
> 
> My $0.0254 (includes exchange).
> 
> 
> Lee
> 
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 10:07 AM "Don Backstrom - AA7AU via arm-allstar", <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri 13-Apr-18 09:25, "peter hertler via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>> As a licensed Canadian Amateur radio operator we are permitted to operate
>>> in the USA. Inversely licensed American operators are permitted to
>> operate
>>> in Canada. Question I have regarding Allstar is... Am I permitted to
>> bring
>>> my Allstar node to the USA and operate it there? I would assume my
>> Station
>>> ID would have to reflect VE3KAI/W4 if I am in Florida. Anyone have any
>>> experiences with that?
>> 
>>     Very interesting question.
>> 
>>     Just as a casual guess: IMO, assuming that you are using UHF/VHF RF
>> to connect to/from your node, that would be "operating" wherever your HT
>> (or whatever) and/or node is located, and therefore subject to those
>> rules in that location.
>> 
>>     However, if you are using a radio-less connection (no RF) to/from
>> your node, you are only using a network connection to some remote
>> location ... no local RF rules (simply using VOIP)?
>> 
>>     What does this mean for folks who connect thru a "foreign country"
>> node? I would think that the foreign rules control he foreign node
>> operation and therefore up to that "local" (foreign) node "operator" to
>> control.
>> 
>>     Thanks from bringing this up!
>> 
>>     - Don - AA7AU
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