[arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
Irvin Fontanes
irvinpr at gmail.com
Tue Nov 14 12:04:22 EST 2017
Sam,
Thanks for the info!
Duplex = 0 and linktolink = yes is what's needed for a real full duplex
solution.
Thanks,
Irvin
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1. Re: Full duplex modes (Irvin Fontanes)
2. Re: Full duplex modes (Irvin Fontanes)
3. Re: Full duplex modes (Mark Johnston)
4. Re: Full duplex modes (Sam Skolfield)
5. Re: Full duplex modes (Eric Harrison)
6. Re: Full duplex modes (Terry Bethlehem)
7. Re: Full duplex modes (Terry Bethlehem)
8. Re: DTMF Masking (David McGough)
9. Re: ctcss Tone Functionality (David McGough)
10. Re: DTMF Masking (David McGough)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 19:09:19 -0600
From: Irvin Fontanes <irvinpr at gmail.com>
To: "James R. Pilgram" <jim.pilgram at gmail.com>, BeagleBone Black ARM
Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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On 11/9/2017 6:43 PM, James R. Pilgram wrote:
> You left out what you were trying to control. Please describe your
system rig / rigs and interface to your node
>
> Jim NH6HI
>
>
> Original Message
> From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Sent: November 9, 2017 2:37 PM
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Reply-to: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Cc: irvinpr at gmail.com
> Subject: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
>
> How do I set up my node to be TRUE full duplex just like a real repeater
> controller?
>
> duplex = 2 repeats audio
> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>
> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>
> Thanks.
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Hi Jim,
I have a DMK usb device connected to an icom FR6000.
The problem that I am having is that I do not want whatever the FR6000
receives to be repeated. The only option available (duplex = 3) keys up
the transmitter with no audio. I do not want the transmitter to be keyed
at all.
Duplex = 3 is what I need but it keys up the xmtr.
Regards,
Irvin
I
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 19:45:50 -0600
From: Irvin Fontanes <irvinpr at gmail.com>
To: "James R. Pilgram" <jim.pilgram at gmail.com>, BeagleBone Black ARM
Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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On 11/9/2017 6:43 PM, James R. Pilgram wrote:
> You left out what you were trying to control. Please describe your
system rig / rigs and interface to your node
>
> Jim NH6HI
>
>
> Original Message
> From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Sent: November 9, 2017 2:37 PM
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Reply-to: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Cc: irvinpr at gmail.com
> Subject: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
>
> How do I set up my node to be TRUE full duplex just like a real repeater
> controller?
>
> duplex = 2 repeats audio
> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>
> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
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Let me be more specific.
I would like to connect two nodes labeled node 1 (rx1 and tx2) and node
2 (rx2 and tx2).
And am needing:
-rx1 to key up tx2
and:
-rx2 to key up tx1
I do not want rx1 to interact with tx1 at all or rx2 to interact with
tx2 at all.
Hopefully this clears any confusion.
Regards,
Irvin
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 17:51:55 -0800
From: Mark Johnston <markjohnston73 at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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Why not use Duplex = 0 -No telemetry
or Duplex = 1 which has telemetry... but no repeat audio/ptt
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On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:45 PM, "Irvin Fontanes via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> On 11/9/2017 6:43 PM, James R. Pilgram wrote:
>
>> You left out what you were trying to control. Please describe your
>> system rig / rigs and interface to your node
>>
>> Jim NH6HI
>>
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>> Sent: November 9, 2017 2:37 PM
>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>> Reply-to: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>> Cc: irvinpr at gmail.com
>> Subject: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
>>
>> How do I set up my node to be TRUE full duplex just like a real repeater
>> controller?
>>
>> duplex = 2 repeats audio
>> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
>> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
>> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>>
>> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
>> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> arm-allstar mailing list
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>>
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>>
>
> Let me be more specific.
>
> I would like to connect two nodes labeled node 1 (rx1 and tx2) and node 2
> (rx2 and tx2).
> And am needing:
> -rx1 to key up tx2
> and:
> -rx2 to key up tx1
>
> I do not want rx1 to interact with tx1 at all or rx2 to interact with tx2
> at all.
>
> Hopefully this clears any confusion.
>
> Regards,
> Irvin
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 01:55:44 +0000
From: Sam Skolfield <kj6qfs at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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Try duplex=0 and linktolink=yes
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:37 PM "Irvin Fontanes via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> How do I set up my node to be TRUE full duplex just like a real repeater
> controller?
>
> duplex = 2 repeats audio
> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>
> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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Sam Skolfield
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 03:08:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric Harrison <n7jys at yahoo.com>
To: "arm-allstar at hamvoip.org" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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Duplex=2
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Irvin Fontanes via arm-allstar<
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote: How do I set up my node to be TRUE full
duplex just like a real repeater
controller?
duplex = 2 repeats audio
duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
simultaneous receive and transmit.
Thanks.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 22:17:33 -0500
From: Terry Bethlehem <kd4ont at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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I like duplex 3, no incoming (through node) courtesy tone, and courtesy
tone on my local input. That way the other side's tone won't drive you
crazy. You can monitor your link without feedback. Your rf incoming roger
beep tells you if someone else has gained access to your node through
internet or rf. If you get ghost beeps, and you didn't key up, you know
someone is mucking around on your personal repeater node.
On Nov 9, 2017 10:08 PM, Eric Harrison via arm-allstar <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> Duplex=2
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Irvin Fontanes via arm-allstar<
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote: How do I set up my node to be TRUE full
> duplex just like a real repeater
> controller?
>
> duplex = 2 repeats audio
> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>
> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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>
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 22:19:22 -0500
From: Terry Bethlehem <kd4ont at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Full duplex modes
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If you don't want your repeater to key up with incoming rf, you won't know
if anyone has gained access to it. No local rf or ip roger beep.
On Nov 9, 2017 10:08 PM, Eric Harrison via arm-allstar <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> Duplex=2
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Irvin Fontanes via arm-allstar<
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote: How do I set up my node to be TRUE full
> duplex just like a real repeater
> controller?
>
> duplex = 2 repeats audio
> duplex = 3 does not repeat audio but keys up the xmtr when the rcvr is
> active (I don't want it to key up the xmtr)
> duplex = 4 is basically the same as duplex = 2
>
> I want duplex = 3 with no repeat audio nor ptt; I want independent +
> simultaneous receive and transmit.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
>
> arm-allstar mailing list
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
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>
> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>
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>
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>
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 23:53:20 -0500 (EST)
From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
To: "\"William Freeman via arm-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DTMF Masking
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Hi William,
Locally originating DTMF tones are usually dynamically muted by the
AllStar software. So I'm confused as to the problem you're having?
Note that there is a switch in the simpleusb.conf file which will turn off
all DTMF processing (dtmf_dsp=0) on a per-node basis, and if disabled,
DTMF would not be muted.
What exactly is happening?
73, David KB4FXC
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, "William Freeman via arm-allstar" wrote:
> In AllStar, is there anyway to "mask" or "mute" the DTMF tones that are in
> the repeated audio so others don't have to hear them? Thanks Bill N4NJJ
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 23:59:27 -0500 (EST)
From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
To: "\"Michael Lee Lockwood via arm-allstar\""
<arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] ctcss Tone Functionality
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Hi,
The scenario you're describing is typical operation for usbradio, I
believe. I don't believe there is any additional capability (e.g.: 151.4
keys only local, 71.9 keys all) currently implemented.
BTW, I'm not thoroughly familiar with the DSP "guts" of usbradio.
Anyone else got any ideas?
73, David KB4FXC
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, "Michael Lee Lockwood via arm-allstar" wrote:
> Question regarding PL Tones:
>
> I'm using the RPi/URI with DSP to encode and decode ctcss tones on my
node repeaters.
>
> What I've found is that when using secondary encode/decode tones (not
the default tone) the repeater tail and courtesy tones aren't following
the ctcss tone they originated with. For example:
>
> Default tone is: 151.4
> Additional ctcss encode/decode tone is: 146.2
>
> When anyone keys up on 146.2, other users can hear if their receive
ctcss tone is programmed to 146.2 DURING the transmission. However, as
soon as they dekey, the tone changes to 151.4 immediately for the
repeater tail and courtesy tone. So the folks using 146.2 never hear the
tail or courtesy tone.
>
> Am I doing something wrong, or is this how it's supposed to function?
>
> Additionally, is it possible to allow only certain ctcss tones to
broadcast over the linked nodes? Whereas other ctcss tones in
usbradio.conf would only key the local repeater?
>
> For example:
>
> 151.4 Only keys local repeater
> 71.9 Keys local repeater and linked node repeaters
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:40:27 -0500 (EST)
From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
To: William Freeman <william.paul.freeman at gmail.com>
Cc: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DTMF Masking
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Hi William,
Ah, so the DTMF is coming in-bound to your node from another node, via a
link?? ...As you've found, remote-originating DTMF tones don't get
locally processed (at your end), so, at least they won't accidentally
activate an AllStar feature.
It's possible that the app_rpt notch-filter capability could reduce the
amplitude of these tones, making them less noticeable. I haven't actually
tried the notch capability for this type application....Has anyone else
tried this? ...If not, I'll give it a whirl and report back.
73, David KB4FXC
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, William Freeman wrote:
> Dtmf audio from a node that I regularly connect to in Vegas is being
transmitted over the link. It's not having any effect on my nodes
others than it is annoying.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> William Freeman
>
> > On Nov 9, 2017, at 8:53 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi William,
> >
> > Locally originating DTMF tones are usually dynamically muted by the
> > AllStar software. So I'm confused as to the problem you're having?
> >
> > Note that there is a switch in the simpleusb.conf file which will turn
off
> > all DTMF processing (dtmf_dsp=0) on a per-node basis, and if disabled,
> > DTMF would not be muted.
> >
> > What exactly is happening?
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, "William Freeman via arm-allstar" wrote:
> >>
> >> In AllStar, is there anyway to "mask" or "mute" the DTMF tones that
are in
> >> the repeated audio so others don't have to hear them? Thanks Bill N4NJJ
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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