[arm-allstar] No Rx On Echolink.

Stephen Grob sgrob at mtco.com
Sun Jul 30 16:22:48 EST 2017


Ken,
 nounkeyct=1 did the trick! :-)

And thanks for the link to the rpt.conf reference. That will help me a lot in the future.

Once again, a really fast reply that fixed my issue immediately.

You guys are awesome. 

73,
Steve
KD9AER

> On Jul 30, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Kenneth Grimard via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> try using
> 
> nounkeyct=1  in your rpt.conf node stanza
> 
> the will stop the node from transmitting after carrier drop from the repeater
> but still allow a courtesy status tones from the network.
> 
> if that does not work use duplex=0 in your rpt.conf node stanza. that will stop all courtesy tones and tails from the allstar node.
> 
> |;duplex = 2 ; (Optional) set duplex operating mode ;; 0 = half duplex (telemetry and courtesy tones do not transmit) ;; 1 = semi-half duplex (telemetry and courtesy tones transmit, but not ;; repeated audio ;; 2 = normal full-duplex mode (Default) ;; 3 = full-duplex mode, without repeated audio from main input source ;; 4 - Normal except no main repeat audio during autopatch only|
> 
> 
> 
> ken n1dot
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/30/2017 3:26 PM, "Steve via arm-allstar" wrote:
>> Node still running great but with one small annoyance.
>> 
>> eg. Node transceiver receives transmission from repeater. At the end of every receive, node transmitter keys up momentarily then un-keys. Happens every time and very consistent. I tried changing RXONDELAY and RXAUDIODELAY in simpleusb menu but neither had any effect.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> 73
>> Steve
>> KD9AER
>>  
>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:20 AM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>>  You hit the nail on the head! I rewired the cable according to your info and it works!
>>> 
>>> Set Tx and Rx levels and it sounds great!
>>> 
>>> Now, have to reconfigure for the node sitting on the repeater location network, turn off time hack, courtesy tones and a few other simple things at it will be ready for the club to enjoy. To Do’s for everything I need to do are documented on the website.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all for your contributions. Your website is very well documented and supported and very much appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> KD9AER
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, That radio has the same DB9 wiring as the Alinco's. It looks like it should be COSFROM=usbinvert.  The COS line goes low on carrier or PL. This is an open collector output so you will not see any voltage change unless it is connected to the DMK-URI which has a pullup for COS. Here is how it should be wired -
>>>> 
>>>>             DMK-URI DB25 Male     Alinco DB9 male
>>>> COS                8                                 1
>>>> RX Audio       21                                4
>>>> GND            19,20                             5
>>>> PTT               1                                   7
>>>> TX Audio       22                                9
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com <mailto:sgrob at mtco.com>> wrote:
>>>> The node radio is a Yaesu FT2600M. Using DMK URIx. I did not wire the cable but it was supposedly used with this radio in a previous Echolink node.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions on where to find pinouts for this application?
>>>> 
>>>> I will check voltages.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> Steve
>>>> KD9AER
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> It sounds like you have a COS problem from the node radio. Without COS you
>>>>> will get no audio as you are experiencing. You should see a change in
>>>>> COSFROM when the ht is keyed and unkeyed into the node radio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What radio are you using for the node radio? What FOB are you using? Did
>>>>> you wire the connections or someone else?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>*
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com <mailto:sgrob at mtco.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I agree - get the radio link working as that is where the problem
>>>>>> lies.
>>>>>> Goal is to make an Echolink node that sits in our club repeater room and
>>>>>> transmits at low power for members to use while traveling.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see where the confusion is I think. I didn’t do a good job describing my
>>>>>> problem. Allow me to try again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have the node radio and my ht both tuned to the same simplex frequency.
>>>>>> I have no problem connecting to the node with my cell phone echolink app.
>>>>>> When I key the cell phone app and speak, I can hear my voice clearly on
>>>>>> the ht speaker.
>>>>>> So far, so good.
>>>>>> When I key the ht and speak, I hear nothing on the cell phone app. This is
>>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I choose item 2 on simpleusb-tune-menu and see the following:
>>>>>> Please enter your selection now: 2
>>>>>> RX VOICE DISPLAY:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>                                 v -- 3KHz        v -- 5KHz
>>>>>> When I key the ht and speak, nothing changes on the RX level display and I
>>>>>> still don’t hear anything on the cell phone app.
>>>>>> I change the RX level to 999 and key the ht again but still don’t see
>>>>>> anything change on the RX level display and of course nothing heard on the
>>>>>> cell phone app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The above was all done with the volume turned all the way down on the node
>>>>>> radio. If I turn the volume up on the node radio, I can hear everything
>>>>>> (through the node radio speaker) when I key the ht and speak. But do not
>>>>>> hear anything through the cell phone app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I key the ht, COS status does not change - it remains in CLEAR status
>>>>>> whether the ht is keyed or not. So, I assume this means I need to change
>>>>>> COSFROM from usbinvert to USB. But if I change COSFROM to USB then I get
>>>>>> the hash on the cell phone and COS status is keyed whether the ht is keyed
>>>>>> or not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> KD9AER
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <
>>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, as I said lets get the radio link working first. Then deal with
>>>>>> echolink.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When we refer to "radio keyed" we mean the radio talking TO your node
>>>>>> radio. So if you key a handheld  or whatever on the frequency and PL of
>>>>>> your node radio the COSFROM should show keyed. With the handheld unkeyed it
>>>>>> should show clear. If it is not doing this or doing the opposite then
>>>>>> switch from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When this is set correctly you should hear courtesy tone on unkey. The next
>>>>>> thing you need to do, again in simpleusb-tune-menu, is set your levels.
>>>>>> Item 2 on the menu is RX level. This is the level for your NODE radios rx.
>>>>>> In other words what it hears FROM your handheld transmitting TO the node
>>>>>> radio.The level shows on the screen as a bar graph and should kick up to
>>>>>> 5-6khz on peaks. If not hit 'return' change the level and recheck. Be sure
>>>>>> to save with the 'w' command before exiting if you change something.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If this is not set correctly DTMF will either not work or will be erratic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can check DTMF in the Asterisk client from the main menu. As you key
>>>>>> and push the keys the ones selected should show on the screen. Key in 0-9*#
>>>>>> and make sure they all decode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not sure what your ultimate goal is here? Do you just want to run
>>>>>> Echolink or are you using Allstar? Echolink requires port forwarding. There
>>>>>> is an Echolink howto on the hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/> web page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What node radio are you using? What FOB?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:44 AM, "Steve via arm-allstar" <
>>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since I was subscribed to daily digest and did not get Doug's reply to my
>>>>>> post directly, I could not reply. I have since unsubscribed to daily digest
>>>>>> as requested so should receive future replies to my posts directly. I have
>>>>>> attached Doug’s reply at the bottom for reference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert and the node radio not
>>>>>> keyed:
>>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>>   COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>>  CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert with node radio keyed:
>>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>>   COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>>  CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | KEYED
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usb and the node radio not keyed:
>>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>>   COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>>  KEYED    |  KEYED  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this point I hear continuous hash on the Echolink cell phone app and
>>>>>> the transmit key is not available so can’t show you what the COS view with
>>>>>> COSFROM set to usb. Hearing the same hash on the node radio too if I turn
>>>>>> the volume up a bit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With the COSFROM set to usbinvert I do hear the courtesy tone when
>>>>>> un-keying.
>>>>>> Had to set Transmit level A and B to 999 to get it to sound right.
>>>>>> It does play the time on the hour.
>>>>>> Don’t know how to do DTMF yet.
>>>>>> I get the same results if the cell phone is on my home network or using
>>>>>> the cellular network.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here are current parameter values:
>>>>>> Active simpleusb stanza: [usb]
>>>>>> USB device String:       1-1.2:1.0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Card is:         0
>>>>>> Name is:         usb
>>>>>> Rx Level:        500
>>>>>> Rx no-delay:     0
>>>>>> Rx audio-delay:  1
>>>>>> Tx A Level:      999
>>>>>> Tx B Level:      999
>>>>>> preemphasis:     yes
>>>>>> deemphasis:      no
>>>>>> plfilter:        yes
>>>>>> rxboost:         yes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PTT:             Active LOW
>>>>>> PTT status:      Un-Keyed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CTCSS (input):   Ignored
>>>>>> COS (input):     CM108/CM119 Active LOW
>>>>>> COS (test):      Un-Keyed
>>>>>> COS (composite): Un-Keyed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> KD9AER
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:42:40 -0400
>>>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com> <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>>>> <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>>> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] No RX on Echolink.
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>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First of all you need to have your radio setup correctly independent of
>>>>>> Echolink. If you go into the simple-usb-tune-menu there is a 'v' option
>>>>>> which allows you view the COS and PTT signals. When you key the radio
>>>>>> talking to your node radio you should see a key indication in cos input.
>>>>>> When you unkey it should show clear. If this is reversed you need to change
>>>>>> either from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.  Once you have this setup
>>>>>> correctly you should hear a courtesy tone when you unkey and you should be
>>>>>> able to use DTMF. Try *81 to see if it plays the time. You will also
>>>>>> probably have to set the levels - items 2 and 3. All this is detailed in
>>>>>> the setup instructions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once that is setup you need to make sure echolink is setup correctly. There
>>>>>> is also a howto on this on the web page - hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/> <http://hamvoip.org/ <http://hamvoip.org/>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>> You need to have
>>>>>> port forwarding and you can only have one Echolink existence per public IP.
>>>>>> If you do use a smart phone running echo link it must be using the cell
>>>>>> network for Internet and not your local wifi where the Pi is running.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>> <
>>>>>> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>>*
>>>>>> 
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