[arm-allstar] No Rx On Echolink.

David McGough kb4fxc at inttek.net
Sun Jul 30 14:45:43 EST 2017


I typically run my simplex link nodes with:


duplex=0
linktolink=yes

73, David KB4FXC


On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, "Kenneth Grimard via arm-allstar" wrote:

> try using

nounkeyct=1  in your rpt.conf node stanza

the will stop the node from transmitting after carrier drop from the 
repeater
but still allow a courtesy status tones from the network.

if that does not work use duplex=0 in your rpt.conf node stanza. that 
will stop all courtesy tones and tails from the allstar node.

|;duplex = 2 ; (Optional) set duplex operating mode ;; 0 = half duplex 
(telemetry and courtesy tones do not transmit) ;; 1 = semi-half duplex 
(telemetry and courtesy tones transmit, but not ;; repeated audio ;; 2 = 
normal full-duplex mode (Default) ;; 3 = full-duplex mode, without 
repeated audio from main input source ;; 4 - Normal except no main 
repeat audio during autopatch only|



ken n1dot



On 7/30/2017 3:26 PM, "Steve via arm-allstar" wrote:
> Node still running great but with one small annoyance.
>
> eg. Node transceiver receives transmission from repeater. At the end of every receive, node transmitter keys up momentarily then un-keys. Happens every time and very consistent. I tried changing RXONDELAY and RXAUDIODELAY in simpleusb menu but neither had any effect.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73
> Steve
> KD9AER
>   
>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:20 AM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>   You hit the nail on the head! I rewired the cable according to your info and it works!
>>
>> Set Tx and Rx levels and it sounds great!
>>
>> Now, have to reconfigure for the node sitting on the repeater location network, turn off time hack, courtesy tones and a few other simple things at it will be ready for the club to enjoy. To Do’s for everything I need to do are documented on the website.
>>
>> Thanks to all for your contributions. Your website is very well documented and supported and very much appreciated!
>>
>> Steve
>> KD9AER
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, That radio has the same DB9 wiring as the Alinco's. It looks like it should be COSFROM=usbinvert.  The COS line goes low on carrier or PL. This is an open collector output so you will not see any voltage change unless it is connected to the DMK-URI which has a pullup for COS. Here is how it should be wired -
>>>
>>>              DMK-URI DB25 Male     Alinco DB9 male
>>> COS                8                                 1
>>> RX Audio       21                                4
>>> GND            19,20                             5
>>> PTT               1                                   7
>>> TX Audio       22                                9
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com <mailto:sgrob at mtco.com>> wrote:
>>> The node radio is a Yaesu FT2600M. Using DMK URIx. I did not wire the cable but it was supposedly used with this radio in a previous Echolink node.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on where to find pinouts for this application?
>>>
>>> I will check voltages.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Steve
>>> KD9AER
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like you have a COS problem from the node radio. Without COS you
>>>> will get no audio as you are experiencing. You should see a change in
>>>> COSFROM when the ht is keyed and unkeyed into the node radio.
>>>>
>>>> What radio are you using for the node radio? What FOB are you using? Did
>>>> you wire the connections or someone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>
>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>
>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Steve <sgrob at mtco.com <mailto:sgrob at mtco.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I agree - get the radio link working as that is where the problem
>>>>> lies.
>>>>> Goal is to make an Echolink node that sits in our club repeater room and
>>>>> transmits at low power for members to use while traveling.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see where the confusion is I think. I didn’t do a good job describing my
>>>>> problem. Allow me to try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the node radio and my ht both tuned to the same simplex frequency.
>>>>> I have no problem connecting to the node with my cell phone echolink app.
>>>>> When I key the cell phone app and speak, I can hear my voice clearly on
>>>>> the ht speaker.
>>>>> So far, so good.
>>>>> When I key the ht and speak, I hear nothing on the cell phone app. This is
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I choose item 2 on simpleusb-tune-menu and see the following:
>>>>> Please enter your selection now: 2
>>>>> RX VOICE DISPLAY:
>>>>>
>>>>>                                  v -- 3KHz        v -- 5KHz
>>>>> When I key the ht and speak, nothing changes on the RX level display and I
>>>>> still don’t hear anything on the cell phone app.
>>>>> I change the RX level to 999 and key the ht again but still don’t see
>>>>> anything change on the RX level display and of course nothing heard on the
>>>>> cell phone app.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above was all done with the volume turned all the way down on the node
>>>>> radio. If I turn the volume up on the node radio, I can hear everything
>>>>> (through the node radio speaker) when I key the ht and speak. But do not
>>>>> hear anything through the cell phone app.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I key the ht, COS status does not change - it remains in CLEAR status
>>>>> whether the ht is keyed or not. So, I assume this means I need to change
>>>>> COSFROM from usbinvert to USB. But if I change COSFROM to USB then I get
>>>>> the hash on the cell phone and COS status is keyed whether the ht is keyed
>>>>> or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> KD9AER
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, as I said lets get the radio link working first. Then deal with
>>>>> echolink.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we refer to "radio keyed" we mean the radio talking TO your node
>>>>> radio. So if you key a handheld  or whatever on the frequency and PL of
>>>>> your node radio the COSFROM should show keyed. With the handheld unkeyed it
>>>>> should show clear. If it is not doing this or doing the opposite then
>>>>> switch from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.
>>>>>
>>>>> When this is set correctly you should hear courtesy tone on unkey. The next
>>>>> thing you need to do, again in simpleusb-tune-menu, is set your levels.
>>>>> Item 2 on the menu is RX level. This is the level for your NODE radios rx.
>>>>> In other words what it hears FROM your handheld transmitting TO the node
>>>>> radio.The level shows on the screen as a bar graph and should kick up to
>>>>> 5-6khz on peaks. If not hit 'return' change the level and recheck. Be sure
>>>>> to save with the 'w' command before exiting if you change something.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is not set correctly DTMF will either not work or will be erratic.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can check DTMF in the Asterisk client from the main menu. As you key
>>>>> and push the keys the ones selected should show on the screen. Key in 0-9*#
>>>>> and make sure they all decode.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what your ultimate goal is here? Do you just want to run
>>>>> Echolink or are you using Allstar? Echolink requires port forwarding. There
>>>>> is an Echolink howto on the hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/> web page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What node radio are you using? What FOB?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:44 AM, "Steve via arm-allstar" <
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I was subscribed to daily digest and did not get Doug's reply to my
>>>>> post directly, I could not reply. I have since unsubscribed to daily digest
>>>>> as requested so should receive future replies to my posts directly. I have
>>>>> attached Doug’s reply at the bottom for reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug,
>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert and the node radio not
>>>>> keyed:
>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>    COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>   CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert with node radio keyed:
>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>    COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>   CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | KEYED
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usb and the node radio not keyed:
>>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>>    COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>>>   KEYED    |  KEYED  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point I hear continuous hash on the Echolink cell phone app and
>>>>> the transmit key is not available so can’t show you what the COS view with
>>>>> COSFROM set to usb. Hearing the same hash on the node radio too if I turn
>>>>> the volume up a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the COSFROM set to usbinvert I do hear the courtesy tone when
>>>>> un-keying.
>>>>> Had to set Transmit level A and B to 999 to get it to sound right.
>>>>> It does play the time on the hour.
>>>>> Don’t know how to do DTMF yet.
>>>>> I get the same results if the cell phone is on my home network or using
>>>>> the cellular network.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are current parameter values:
>>>>> Active simpleusb stanza: [usb]
>>>>> USB device String:       1-1.2:1.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Card is:         0
>>>>> Name is:         usb
>>>>> Rx Level:        500
>>>>> Rx no-delay:     0
>>>>> Rx audio-delay:  1
>>>>> Tx A Level:      999
>>>>> Tx B Level:      999
>>>>> preemphasis:     yes
>>>>> deemphasis:      no
>>>>> plfilter:        yes
>>>>> rxboost:         yes
>>>>>
>>>>> PTT:             Active LOW
>>>>> PTT status:      Un-Keyed
>>>>>
>>>>> CTCSS (input):   Ignored
>>>>> COS (input):     CM108/CM119 Active LOW
>>>>> COS (test):      Un-Keyed
>>>>> COS (composite): Un-Keyed
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> KD9AER
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:42:40 -0400
>>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com> <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>>> <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] No RX on Echolink.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all you need to have your radio setup correctly independent of
>>>>> Echolink. If you go into the simple-usb-tune-menu there is a 'v' option
>>>>> which allows you view the COS and PTT signals. When you key the radio
>>>>> talking to your node radio you should see a key indication in cos input.
>>>>> When you unkey it should show clear. If this is reversed you need to change
>>>>> either from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.  Once you have this setup
>>>>> correctly you should hear a courtesy tone when you unkey and you should be
>>>>> able to use DTMF. Try *81 to see if it plays the time. You will also
>>>>> probably have to set the levels - items 2 and 3. All this is detailed in
>>>>> the setup instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once that is setup you need to make sure echolink is setup correctly. There
>>>>> is also a howto on this on the web page - hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/> <http://hamvoip.org/ <http://hamvoip.org/>
>>>>>> .
>>>>> You need to have
>>>>> port forwarding and you can only have one Echolink existence per public IP.
>>>>> If you do use a smart phone running echo link it must be using the cell
>>>>> network for Internet and not your local wifi where the Pi is running.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>>
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>> <
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>>>>>
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