<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div style="direction: inherit;">Steve, was there a charge for the APN?</div><div style="direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style="direction: inherit;">Stan</div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 23, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Steve Zingman via arm-allstar <<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>FWIW,</span><br><span>I use AT&T with Cradlepoint IBR-560 routers. If you want a static IP that is not NAT or firewalled, tell them you want to use the APN "i2gold"</span><br><span></span><br><span>73, Steve N4IRS</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 09/23/2016 01:00 PM, <a href="mailto:arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org</a> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:10:16 -1000</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: "James R. Pilgram" <<a href="mailto:jim.pilgram@gmail.com">jim.pilgram@gmail.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: BeagleBone Black ARM Allstar <<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AT&T Wireless</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:57e448bc.8431620a.25675.be55@mx.google.com">57e448bc.8431620a.25675.be55@mx.google.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mahalo for that information Tom. I'll look into that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jim NH6HI</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>? Original Message ?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From:<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent:September 22, 2016 06:35</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To:<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reply-to:<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc:<a href="mailto:tom@tomh.us">tom@tomh.us</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject:Re: [arm-allstar] AT&T Wireless</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Eric Harrison via arm-allstar</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Are you using Verizon's hot spot? I tryed straight talk's hot spot on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>verizon's network</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and even though i could port forward on my hotspot i could never get an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inbound to work. Just outbound connections.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Verizon (and I assume the other cellular networks) use CGN, or Carrier</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Grade Network Address Translation. This makes your hot spot the second</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAT. You would need port forwards on both the hot spot and Verizon CGN</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>router to allow inbound connections. They don't offer this, but as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stated before they do sell static IPs to get around their CGN.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Their IPv6 network is not NAT'd, but it is firewalled to block inbound</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>connections.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can use OpenVPN to provide a path for inbound connections.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I've had good luck with this on Allstar systems.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom KD7LXL</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>arm-allstar mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org">http://hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 2</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:50:18 -0400</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: ARM Allstar <<a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AT&T Wireless</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BLU171-W8959E11A18F3A4527EFAD2BAC90@phx.gbl">BLU171-W8959E11A18F3A4527EFAD2BAC90@phx.gbl</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we are talking about two different things here. One is being able to connect and use Allstar in a particular network and the other is being able to port forward. Obviously if you cannot connect or use Allstar then port forwarding is just a secondary issue.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The original poster was talking about being able to connect not port forwarding.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>>From tests we have done it appears at least with the current Allstar AT&T has use issues not related to any port forwarding but rather just working. Verizon users have been very successful using Allstar remotely. Several users in my area are regularly using it and a user posted here several weeks ago about his success after a cross country trip.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unless you spend big bucks and get a static IP cell connection you will NOT be able to port forward on any cell system without using a VPN or other means.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This idea that you have to have port forwarding with Allstar is not warranted. I suspect many have come from Echolink or IRLP where it is required. It is NOT required with Allstar. I would venture to guess that better than 90% of the cell connected nodes are portable nodes used in cars, etc. In that case there would be no requirement or need to do remote administration. The box is with you. Use a monitor or direct wired connection for whatever you have to do. Most setup in these cases would be done at a home location anyway connected wired or to WIFI.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As far as connecting in is concerned I see this as another non issue. You can always connect out. So connect to somewhere where others know you will be connecting. This could be a personal home node or a node not owned by you. As long as you connect there and others know that is where you will be then you have a circuit.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stop sweating the port forwarding issue. There are work arounds that do not involve the complexity or in some case cost of a VPN.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>73 Doug</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>WA3DSP</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:01:38 -0400</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AT&T Wireless</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>James,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> I have not known anyone to be successful with AT&T phone hotspots and Allstar. Thats not to say it can't be done you would just need to use a VPN. We are working on a likely fix for this that will be in a future code update.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I know of several people who have switched to Verizon or some other service just because of this. The problem lies in the perceived public IP address in Allstar. It is not the same as the phone actual assigned public IP address. There is some form of NAT'ing going on in the AT&T system. Using AT&T your server will receive a public IP but either never register with Allstar or register but never get a node list.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>73 Doug</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>WA3DSP</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 05:40:43 +0000</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [arm-allstar] AT&T Wireless</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>CC: <a href="mailto:kb5rir1@yahoo.com">kb5rir1@yahoo.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Has anyone got the wifi on the Pi3 working on an AT&T Phone or Hotspot.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Any Help would be appreciated very much.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I here it works on Verizon phones but it has problems with AT&T. I just cant justify paying another bill to talk on ham radio.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm usually on 3.868 MHZ between 12am and 2am CST. in my truck.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>James Dusek (KB5RIR)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>arm-allstar mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org">http://hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>arm-allstar mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org">http://hamvoip.org</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160922/add9abdf/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160922/add9abdf/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Digest Footer</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>arm-allstar mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>End of arm-allstar Digest, Vol 28, Issue 36</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*******************************************</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>"Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."</span><br><span>1st Law of Logic</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span>arm-allstar mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org">http://hamvoip.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>