<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15159" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15532">I can not see the bubble map or see connection status. Get can not open CGI file. Any thoughts?</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15158">Been broke for me for more than a week.<br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15151" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15150"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15149"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15148"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15157"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15709"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15825"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15824">From:</span></b> "arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org" <arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15827"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15826">To:</span></b> arm-allstar@hamvoip.org <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15829"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15828">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 5, 2016 10:54 AM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15831"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15830">Subject:</span></b> arm-allstar Digest, Vol 24, Issue 14<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462533626574_15152"><br>Send arm-allstar mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar-request@hamvoip.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar-owner@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar-owner@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar-owner@hamvoip.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of arm-allstar digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: just getting started and trying to understand the current<br> requirements with a PI2 or similar (Doug Crompton)<br> 2. Re: just getting started and trying to understand the current<br> requirements with a PI2 or similar (Roselito de los Reyes)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:45:23 -0400<br>From: Doug Crompton <<a ymailto="mailto:doug@crompton.com" href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>><br>To: ARM Allstar <<a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to<br> understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:BLU171-W70041EC1208F0019D32CE2BA7C0@phx.gbl" href="mailto:BLU171-W70041EC1208F0019D32CE2BA7C0@phx.gbl">BLU171-W70041EC1208F0019D32CE2BA7C0@phx.gbl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Dave,<br><br> We are working on this problem in a number of ways and hopefully soon will have some answers. There may be a production of a much cheaper URI type interface and also we are working on a USB to serial approach. Stay tuned.<br>73 Doug<br>WA3DSP<br><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br><br><br>> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 17:46:15 -0700<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> CC: <a ymailto="mailto:david@lang.hm" href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a><br>> <br>> Just a quick follow-up on this as I'm finally getting some hardware in-hand to <br>> play with (and time to think of it :-)<br>> <br>> It's getting hard to find the cheap USB sound FOBs that do not have the chip <br>> covered with epoxy, so there is actually some real value in using the GPIOs of <br>> the Pi/BBB instead of the ones on the FOBs<br>> <br>> David Lang<br>> <br>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, David Lang wrote:<br>> <br>> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Doug Crompton wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> Dave,<br>> >> <br>> >> Yes, you will need a USB sound interface which can be the $70 DMK URI or a <br>> >> $3 modified sound FOB. A very simple modification and source link for the <br>> >> FOB is in the howto section at hamvoip.org.<br>> >> <br>> >> Built-in sound would not work. There is no audio input on the Pi and output <br>> >> is normally routed to HDMI but can be routed to a TRRS connector - <br>> >> <a href="http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/" target="_blank">http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/</a><br>> ><br>> > ahh, I didn't realize it was missing the input side.<br>> ><br>> > I'm actually looking at building a small system with two linked receviers to <br>> > one transmitter.<br>> ><br>> > I'll look into the USB sound FOBs for the recever.<br>> ><br>> > Years ago I did a lot of adapatign of different mics to Yeasu/Icom handhelds, <br>> > I'm assuming the newest handhelds have fairly similar interfaces. In most <br>> > cases the interface is not much more than a cap, resister, and sometimes a <br>> > transister. Much cheaper than the $270 official allstar interface boards :-)<br>> ><br>> > Thanks for the clarification.<br>> ><br>> > David Lang<br>> > AG6AH<br>> ><br>> >> There has been interest in using the GPIO for COS and PTT but the USB FOBS <br>> >> have the I/O also. The modification to bring it out of the FOB is really <br>> >> not complicated. The SAME interface circuitry would be needed if using I/O <br>> >> on the FOB or off the GPIO pins. So it is really not simpler. So there is <br>> >> no completely easy way unless you buy a DMK URI.<br>> >> <br>> >> I suggest you checkout the howto for simple USB sound FOB mod. At less than <br>> >> $4 it is certainly worth a try. You don't have much to lose. If you want to <br>> >> save over $60 and you have some patience it is a fun one night project.<br>> >> <br>> >> The steps involve opening the FOB, the case piratically falls off. <br>> >> Soldering two small wires to the chip. This is the hardest part but not <br>> >> really difficult. A real easy way is shown in the photos. Solder three more <br>> >> wires onto the connectors. Bring those five wires out in a shielded cable <br>> >> (old usb cable works - 4 conductor and shield/ground) and at the other end <br>> >> wire up the additional interface components either in a small box or in a <br>> >> connector as shown in the howto. The FOBS reduce to $2.40 in 10 quantities.<br>> >> <br>> >> I don't have the time but it would be great if someone offered to build <br>> >> these for people who can not. Either partially or completely with a DB25 <br>> >> wired like the DMK on the radio end. The user would just have to supply the <br>> >> 25 pin to radio connection the same as using a DMK URI. Wiring it this way <br>> >> would make it plug compatible with the URI. I would think this could be <br>> >> done for around 1/3 of the price of the URI. I guess I am dreaming though <br>> >> because there are vendors out there ripping people off for an interface <br>> >> cable and two connectors for $50!<br>> >> <br>> >> Hams are cheap and you are right paying twice as much for a sound interface <br>> >> as the main board is a lot and if you have two nodes on one board even <br>> >> more.<br>> >> <br>> >> 73 Doug<br>> >> WA3DSP<br>> >> <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:58:39 -0700<br>> >>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:david@lang.hm" href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a><br>> >>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> Subject: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the <br>> >>> current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I see several blog posts talking about using a RPi with allstar that <br>> >>> ignore the<br>> >>> built-in audio and GPIO pins of the Pi in favor of external interface <br>> >>> boards<br>> >>> that cost several times more than the Pi does.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I'm hoping that these were just early attempts and current versions will <br>> >>> use the<br>> >>> built-in audio and much simpler radio interfaces from the GPIOs<br>> >>> <br>> >>> What's the status on this sort of work?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> David Lang<br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> <br>> >>> arm-allstar mailing list<br>> >>> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>> >>> <br>> >>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org/" target="_blank">http://hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> <br>> ><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> arm-allstar mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>> <br>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org/" target="_blank">http://hamvoip.org</a><br>> <br> <br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160505/5b790c8b/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160505/5b790c8b/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:54:09 -0700<br>From: Roselito de los Reyes <<a ymailto="mailto:tolitski@hotmail.com" href="mailto:tolitski@hotmail.com">tolitski@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: ARM Allstar <<a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to<br> understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:BLU172-W2047F2D070C14ACC946599D47C0@phx.gbl" href="mailto:BLU172-W2047F2D070C14ACC946599D47C0@phx.gbl">BLU172-W2047F2D070C14ACC946599D47C0@phx.gbl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Doug,<br>I have seen in other threads that there were versions of simpleusb that supported parallel ports and serial ports. Has these been removed from the HamVoip version?<br>73 Lito de KK6OOS<br><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:45:23 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>CC: <a ymailto="mailto:doug@crompton.com" href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a><br><br><br><br><br>Dave,<br><br> We are working on this problem in a number of ways and hopefully soon will have some answers. There may be a production of a much cheaper URI type interface and also we are working on a USB to serial approach. Stay tuned.<br>73 Doug<br>WA3DSP<br><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br><br><br>> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 17:46:15 -0700<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> CC: <a ymailto="mailto:david@lang.hm" href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a><br>> <br>> Just a quick follow-up on this as I'm finally getting some hardware in-hand to <br>> play with (and time to think of it :-)<br>> <br>> It's getting hard to find the cheap USB sound FOBs that do not have the chip <br>> covered with epoxy, so there is actually some real value in using the GPIOs of <br>> the Pi/BBB instead of the ones on the FOBs<br>> <br>> David Lang<br>> <br>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, David Lang wrote:<br>> <br>> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Doug Crompton wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> Dave,<br>> >> <br>> >> Yes, you will need a USB sound interface which can be the $70 DMK URI or a <br>> >> $3 modified sound FOB. A very simple modification and source link for the <br>> >> FOB is in the howto section at hamvoip.org.<br>> >> <br>> >> Built-in sound would not work. There is no audio input on the Pi and output <br>> >> is normally routed to HDMI but can be routed to a TRRS connector - <br>> >> <a href="http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/" target="_blank">http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/</a><br>> ><br>> > ahh, I didn't realize it was missing the input side.<br>> ><br>> > I'm actually looking at building a small system with two linked receviers to <br>> > one transmitter.<br>> ><br>> > I'll look into the USB sound FOBs for the recever.<br>> ><br>> > Years ago I did a lot of adapatign of different mics to Yeasu/Icom handhelds, <br>> > I'm assuming the newest handhelds have fairly similar interfaces. In most <br>> > cases the interface is not much more than a cap, resister, and sometimes a <br>> > transister. Much cheaper than the $270 official allstar interface boards :-)<br>> ><br>> > Thanks for the clarification.<br>> ><br>> > David Lang<br>> > AG6AH<br>> ><br>> >> There has been interest in using the GPIO for COS and PTT but the USB FOBS <br>> >> have the I/O also. The modification to bring it out of the FOB is really <br>> >> not complicated. The SAME interface circuitry would be needed if using I/O <br>> >> on the FOB or off the GPIO pins. So it is really not simpler. So there is <br>> >> no completely easy way unless you buy a DMK URI.<br>> >> <br>> >> I suggest you checkout the howto for simple USB sound FOB mod. At less than <br>> >> $4 it is certainly worth a try. You don't have much to lose. If you want to <br>> >> save over $60 and you have some patience it is a fun one night project.<br>> >> <br>> >> The steps involve opening the FOB, the case piratically falls off. <br>> >> Soldering two small wires to the chip. This is the hardest part but not <br>> >> really difficult. A real easy way is shown in the photos. Solder three more <br>> >> wires onto the connectors. Bring those five wires out in a shielded cable <br>> >> (old usb cable works - 4 conductor and shield/ground) and at the other end <br>> >> wire up the additional interface components either in a small box or in a <br>> >> connector as shown in the howto. The FOBS reduce to $2.40 in 10 quantities.<br>> >> <br>> >> I don't have the time but it would be great if someone offered to build <br>> >> these for people who can not. Either partially or completely with a DB25 <br>> >> wired like the DMK on the radio end. The user would just have to supply the <br>> >> 25 pin to radio connection the same as using a DMK URI. Wiring it this way <br>> >> would make it plug compatible with the URI. I would think this could be <br>> >> done for around 1/3 of the price of the URI. I guess I am dreaming though <br>> >> because there are vendors out there ripping people off for an interface <br>> >> cable and two connectors for $50!<br>> >> <br>> >> Hams are cheap and you are right paying twice as much for a sound interface <br>> >> as the main board is a lot and if you have two nodes on one board even <br>> >> more.<br>> >> <br>> >> 73 Doug<br>> >> WA3DSP<br>> >> <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:58:39 -0700<br>> >>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:david@lang.hm" href="mailto:david@lang.hm">david@lang.hm</a><br>> >>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> Subject: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the <br>> >>> current requirements with a PI2 or similar<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I see several blog posts talking about using a RPi with allstar that <br>> >>> ignore the<br>> >>> built-in audio and GPIO pins of the Pi in favor of external interface <br>> >>> boards<br>> >>> that cost several times more than the Pi does.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> I'm hoping that these were just early attempts and current versions will <br>> >>> use the<br>> >>> built-in audio and much simpler radio interfaces from the GPIOs<br>> >>> <br>> >>> What's the status on this sort of work?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> David Lang<br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> <br>> >>> arm-allstar mailing list<br>> >>> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>> >>> <br>> >>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org/" target="_blank">http://hamvoip.org</a><br>> >>> <br>> ><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> arm-allstar mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>> <br>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org/" target="_blank">http://hamvoip.org</a><br>> <br> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>arm-allstar mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br><br>Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - <a href="http://hamvoip.org/" target="_blank">http://hamvoip.org </a> <br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160505/bb443bce/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/attachments/20160505/bb443bce/attachment.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>arm-allstar mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of arm-allstar Digest, Vol 24, Issue 14<br>*******************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>