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<DIV>I don’t drink coffee. It took me a few minutes to realize that there are
two Sam’s. What you aren’t aware of is that I have several emails telling me
offlist otherwise and therefore confusion. Suggesting that I don’t know how to,
or I am not reading isn’t fair. I’m really just a guy trying to learn and had
hoped for more than RTFM. I don’t understand the answer. That’s all. There is a
huge amount of information in this list that I don’t understand and much of it I
dare say isn’t in the manual, They are things you guys have discovered. I don’t
mean to sound condescending or patronizing. I just don’t understand!</DIV>
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<DIV>If we can get back to my question, I have been told by offlist email that
it is possible to use the RPi2 or the BBB for voting and simulcast but when
reading the manuals I don’t see this information. I have asked for clarification
because I really would like to know if there are benefits to doing so over the
RTCM, which of course does voting. I’ll confess that I don’t communicate well
using email. I try but I seem to miss the mark and I hope that you’ll help me
with this.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kj6qfs@gmail.com
href="mailto:kj6qfs@gmail.com">Sam Skolfield</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=arm-allstar@hamvoip.org
href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">ARM Allstar</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arm-allstar] BBB/Pi or RTCM</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>People have stated over and over throughout the thread that the RTCM is the
only Allstar compatible device that votes and simulcasts. So asking if Sam if he
is using a RTCM for simulcasting or not shows that either you aren't reading
people's posts all the way through or you are in the first week of trying to
kick a bad caffeine habit. Please don't feel victimized because people grow sick
of repeating themselves. </DIV>
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<DIV>The documentation on the RTCMs and the voting mechanics of app_rpt is very
well done, and answers all of your questions. Many newbies have deployed RTCM
systems from design to finish with no help whatsoever from the group, so one
would think that a system administrator would have much less of a problem
grasping the basics.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 19, 2015, at 3:43 AM, R. Wayne <<A
href="mailto:allstar@controlservers.net">allstar@controlservers.net</A>>
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<DIV>It does, Sam. Thank you for taking the time to explain. I keep reading so
many different things and its like, OK, which way do I go.<BR><BR>Now you say
that you are using BBB located at one site. But am I to assume that for the
simulcast you are using the RTCM and they talk to your BBB? Our server is in a
commercial data center now but it doesn’t need to be. It could be a RPi2 at
one site and they would all talk one another. Our site vendor has 25 linked
sites. Doing this would lower the latency. I assume that we could then run a
remote base that could talk up to a site that allow other Allstar nodes into
the system using a different node number.</DIV>
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<DIV>Am I on the right track?</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sam.nabkey@gmail.com
href="mailto:sam.nabkey@gmail.com">Sam Nabkey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:09 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=arm-allstar@hamvoip.org
href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">BeagleBone Black ARM Allstar</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arm-allstar] BBB/Pi or RTCM</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>Consider the RTCM to be an ip phone. It will only talk to itself
without a pbx. Allstar is rhe pbx. </P>
<P dir=ltr>The RTCM is a stupid controller without a connected server </P>
<P dir=ltr>Doesn't matter where or what allstar is running on, as long as one
the sites with the RTCM is located on the same physical switch as the allstar
server. That allows for proper GPS timing between the allstar server and the
master RTCM. In some cases people don't run any radios on this
single RTCM.</P>
<P dir=ltr>I use a bbb located at one of my sites and run a simulcast 900
repeater. Work wonderful </P>
<P dir=ltr>Does that help? </P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Nov 19, 2015 05:37, "R. Wayne" <<A
href="mailto:allstar@controlservers.net">allstar@controlservers.net</A>>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">No,
actually it wasn't. Let's not beat up on the new guy trying to understand.
OK? He wrote:<BR><BR>"The RPi2 could be used to replace a PC acid box to
interface with the RTCM's at your remote locations."<BR><BR>If the RTCM is
capable of running without a PC of some sorts why the RPi2?<BR><BR>Just help
me understand and if it troubles you you need not
reply.<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- From: Corey Dean<BR>Sent: Thursday,
November 19, 2015 2:04 AM<BR>To: ARM Allstar<BR>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar]
BBB/Pi or RTCM<BR><BR>No! I think that was explained to you right on
the first email. Only xipar and the rtcm can vote the way you
want.<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone<BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On
Nov 19, 2015, at 4:26 AM, R. Wayne <<A
href="mailto:allstar@controlservers.net"
target=_blank>allstar@controlservers.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>I think I
may not be communicating well. Is the BBB/Pi capable of replacing the RTCM
in voted operation?<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- From: David
McGough<BR>Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:01 PM<BR>To: ARM
Allstar<BR>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] BBB/Pi or
RTCM<BR><BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>Currently, the RTCM is the only solution for
endpoints--for true voting,<BR>adding BBB or RPi2 endpoints won't solve
the problem. The software that<BR>drives the RTCM boards only runs on
RTCM's....There is no functional<BR>equivalent for the other platforms,
like the BBB or RPi2.<BR><BR>Note that when the RTCM was
conceived/developed, it preceded these tiny<BR>high-performance Linux
boards by several years. Now, looking toward the<BR>future, a
software solution may become viable. And, we've already
had<BR>considerable discussion about this, pondering the direction of
future<BR>development.<BR><BR>Anyhow, for now, adding RTCM's is your best
option.<BR><BR>73, David KB4FXC<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Wed, 18 Nov 2015, R. Wayne wrote:<BR><BR>Thanks. As I have written I am
a full time System Administrator and load the<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>OS on PC's
all the time. We already have a PC in a data center that our<BR>current
RTCM talks to. We need to add remote receivers and there's my<BR>question.
RTCM or use Pi's. Why would I choose Pi's? I know there is a<BR>reason but
I don't know it yet. LOL Please tell me what the secret handshake<BR>is!!!
For the love of Pete. Sorry. I got carried away.<BR><BR>-----Original
Message----- From: David McGough<BR>Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015
10:33 PM<BR>To: ARM Allstar<BR>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] BBB/Pi or
RTCM<BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>The RTCM is currently the only
AllStar-based voting solution.<BR>Technically speaking, you'd have an RTCM
at each site where you've got a<BR>receiver or transmitter. Then, all the
RTCM's would connect back to a<BR>central server (which could be in a data
center, etc.) via an IP data<BR>network. The central server would perform
the actual voting action and<BR>send the resultant audio and telemetry
back the the transmitter site.<BR><BR>You could use a BBB, RPi2 or regular
PC as the central server, the RPi2<BR>or PC being preferred for new
installations.<BR><BR>73, David
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