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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>This is Len, WB2HKK:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Pete, KD2ARB sent me this e-mail, suggesting you may have experience with the ‘ Santiago Board ‘.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>I’ve gotten no responses from Allstar, nor the board designer, on the following issue.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Here is a copy of the ongoing conversation. Maybe someone there has son additional information<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#632523;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><u>__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Ok, now I understand. You’ll need to contact guy that build that board. I’ve cc’d him on this email. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Are you sure Linux was locked up, or was it app_rpt? Could you still ssh to it? Linux runs forever, and any lockups are almost always hardware caused. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>—<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>73, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Allstar Admin, WD6AWP<br><a href="mailto:allstarlinks@gmail.com"><span style='color:blue'>allstarlinks@gmail.com</span></a><br><a href="https://allstarlink.org"><span style='color:blue'>https://allstarlink.org</span></a><br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/drupal/"><span style='color:blue'>http://ohnosec.org/drupal/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'>Please help lighten the load on your Allstar admins<br>and help others learn from your questions.<br>Always ask technical questions on the users list at<br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users"><span style='color:blue'>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</span></a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Len Griffin <<a href="mailto:lengriff@optimum.net"><span style='color:blue'>lengriff@optimum.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The board was used BETWEEN a CAT-300 controller and the Maggiore repeater ( <b>P2</b> = controller, <b>J1</b> = repeater). The third port <b>P1</b> was used for the URI to link</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>to another repeater. In bypass, we expect a connection from the controller to the repeater, as though the Santiago board is offline ( <b>P2 </b>connected directly to <b>J1</b>). </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The setup DID work, but when Linux would hang-up for whatever reason, and the Santiago was placed in BYPASS, the repeater controller could NOT access the repeater.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#C00000'>This is the statement on the webpage:</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>The URI can be completely disabled (being functionally taken "out of the picture") if pin 1 on the control connector is shorted to ground. In this mode, the board will basically</span></u></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='color:#1F497D'>be completely passive, and the two devices connected through it will operate as if they were directly connected to each other without the board even present.</span></u></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In BYPASS, it should act like the board is out of circuit. Therefore the computer is also not necessary.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is NOT what we experienced. With Linux hung, and the bypass signal grounded, the Santiago board does NOT connect <b>P2</b> directly to <b>J1 </b>as described.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Len</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Allstar Admin [<a href="mailto:allstarlinks@gmail.com"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:allstarlinks@gmail.com</span></a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Len Griffin<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: santiago board</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Len,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>The Santiago board was a PIC device that only connected a URI to two radios. It could not crash Linux as it just looks like a radio to the URI.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>—<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>73, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Allstar Admin, WD6AWP<br><a href="mailto:allstarlinks@gmail.com"><span style='color:purple'>allstarlinks@gmail.com</span></a><br><a href="https://allstarlink.org/"><span style='color:purple'>https://allstarlink.org</span></a><br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/drupal/"><span style='color:purple'>http://ohnosec.org/drupal/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Please help lighten the load on your Allstar admins<br>and help others learn from your questions.<br>Always ask technical questions on the users list at<br><a href="http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users"><span style='color:purple'>http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users</span></a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>On Jun 11, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Len Griffin <<a href="mailto:lengriff@optimum.net"><span style='color:purple'>lengriff@optimum.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>This is Len, WB2HKK<br><br>I have recently joined the ETSNJ organization in New Jersey, and am helping to resolve some technical issues.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I’m trying to get an answer to a Santiago board question. I’ve sent e-mails and get no replys. Is there a user forum anywhere I can get an answer?</span></u></b><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><br><br>The ETSNJ has tried your Santiago board to link to another local repeater for a net. Apparently it worked <u>fantastic</u> except for one problem.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>With the board in use, even in bypass, when the computer ( running linux ) being used would lock-up for whatever reason,</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>the repeater also stopped working. This was during a time when there were lots of updates to the Allstar program that were affecting the system.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>To restore the repeater, it was necessary to go to the site and re-boot the computer.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Because of this, the Santiago board was removed.<br><br>I would really like to put the board in use again. They hesitate to use it because it makes the repeater system dependent on the computer remaining active. <br><br>If the board is in bypass, why would the computer affect the repeater? Have any updates eliminated this problem?<br><br>Len<br>WB2HKK</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><a href="mailto:lengriff@optimum.net"><span style='color:purple'>lengriff@optimum.net</span></a></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>