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<DIV>I’m sorry but “we on IRLP really don’t this.” what? You don’t want it? With
all due respect you don’t speak for all of IRLP any more than you speak for
D-STAR. We have users on both sides of both that would like to be bridged.
Regarding D-STAR I think a periodic net would be fine. Perhaps that is a
compromise that would make you, a single Allstar/D-STAR user okay? </DIV>
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<DIV>But not the same for IRLP. It is a linking method just like Allstar.
Allstar is many times better but both agree in not sending courtesy tones, CW
ID’s, etc. Just clean receiver audio. So again with all due respect what is your
issue? I am not the one that raised these points to begin with.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wb3ehb@yahoo.com
href="mailto:wb3ehb@yahoo.com">Clint (WB3EHB)</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 04, 2015 9:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=arm-allstar@hamvoip.org
href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">ARM Allstar</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and
how?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Excuse my bluntness... buntness, but we on IRLP
really don't this.<BR>,<BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: roboto, sans-serif; COLOR: #7e7d80"><B>From</B>:"R.
Wayne" <allstar@controlservers.net><BR><B>Date</B>:Mon, May 4,
2015 at 9:23 PM<BR><B>Subject</B>:Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody
bridged dstar to allstar and how?<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>This is going off topic... the packaged D-STAR repeaters are
terrible and have a 1uV receive sensitivity. Only by adding a preamp
can one improve. But they also have poor adjacent channel
selectivity. Adding a preamp only adds to a problem. With this
aside:</DIV>
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<DIV>We need a quick and easy bridge to D-STAR. We had a user one
night hold his microphone up to his D-STAR rig and went back and
forth linking it over our 2m repeater. It was a hit on both sides!
Our users loved talking with New Zealand and vice versa.</DIV>
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<DIV>I need a bridge to IRLP. Are there instructions anywhere? I
realize that Mr. Cameron is opposed to this but well... unlike his
begging for donations to pay for his massive web hosting services
that are nothing more than a single dedicated server we are happy to
put our own dedicated server online in our own data center. But I
need to know how to create the bridge.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Lastly, I’d like a bridge to HF. We
would replace the RF squelch circuit on the HF rig with a MICOR-like
hysteresis type. But users have expressed a desire to have a
periodic net.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Are these possible
bridges?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>R. Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=n8ohu@yahoo.com href="javascript:return"
rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:n8ohu@yahoo.com">Matthew
Pitts</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 04, 2015 7:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=arm-allstar@hamvoip.org
href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">ARM Allstar</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to
allstar and how?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>I
would like to point out that the specifications for both are
available and in the case of D-STAR there are functional options
that can be used with any radio to create both a repeater and an end
user radio, plus there are other radios in development that will
support it. I will also point out that some folks take the
"experimentation" part of ham radio seriously and that we accept
that not everyone will want to use our systems because of
that.<BR><BR>Matthew Pitts<BR>N8OHU<BR>AllStar nodes 28713, 28910,
28912, 28913<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On May 4, 2015 8:08:18 PM EDT, Fred Moore
<fred@fmeco.com> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Can
you imagine what would have happened to SSB if back in the 60'es
you could only get it from one vendor.. ?? <BR>Good comment
Doug.. you expressed my feelings exactly... Fred<BR><BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 5/4/15 7:55 PM, Doug Crompton
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000000 face=Tahoma,sans-serif>Neil,
just my opinion. I didn't mean to offend anyone. It is certainly
alright to ask. I was just pointing out that the current VHF/UHF
digital modes IMHO stink and hams are being sold a bill of goods
by the retailers. On the other hand it is always good to know
the technical side so I will sit back and listen.<BR
id=FontBreak></FONT><BR><FONT face=Tahoma,sans-serif>As for
Allstar there are a couple of key things on audio quality. One
is the fact that usbradio can and often does have serious
problems with distorted audio. As long as you are using
simpleusb which most if not all BBB and RPi2 user are the
considerations are levels and equalization (needing
pre/deemphasis). Often a new user needs help with this and we
need to offer that.</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma,sans-serif> You can
get good clean Allstar audio but there is nothing you can do
with poor digital audio</FONT>.<BR><BR><B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>73 Doug</FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><BR></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>WA3DSP</FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><BR></FONT><FONT
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href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</A></FONT></B><FONT
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From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="javascript:return"
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ymailto="mailto:k8it@cac.net">k8it@cac.net</A><BR>To: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="javascript:return"
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ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 4 May 2015 19:04:33 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] has
anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?<BR><BR>
<DIV>Sorry Doug. I thought I was asking a technical question not
a political question. I have heard dstar repeaters with good and
bad audio as well. the allstar codec seems to be one of the best
however there are some nodes with there levels way off and sound
awful. anyway I was asking from a tech side not a political
side. I did not realize this was a sensitive topic</DIV>
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<DIV>73 neil k8it</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:doug@crompton.com CTRL + Click to follow
link"
href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:doug@crompton.com">Doug Crompton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 04, 2015 6:20 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=arm-allstar@hamvoip.org
href="javascript:return" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">ARM Allstar</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar
to allstar and how?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000000 face=Tahoma,sans-serif>Anything
can be bridged to anything else in numerous ways but I was
wondering why you would want to mess up our wonderful Allstar
audio with crappy Dstar audio? Personally I don't want to hear
any of the current amateur digital audio on Allstar. A circuit
is only as good as its worst audio! That being said you can do
anything you want but if I hear that kind of audio on any
circuit I maintain I would disconnect it unless it is an
emergency.<BR id=ecxFontBreak></FONT><BR><B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>73 Doug</FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><BR></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4>WA3DSP</FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt" size=4><BR></FONT><FONT
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From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="javascript:return"
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ymailto="mailto:k8it@cac.net">k8it@cac.net</A><BR>To: <A
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ymailto="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 4 May 2015 16:53:11 -0400<BR>Subject: [arm-allstar] has
anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>I have a beagle bone black, uri running
asterisk v1.2.1</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>what is the easiest way to bridge to
dstar? we do not have any local dstar repeaters so I am thinking
about a dstar dongle or modem but how to interface it to
asterisk v1.2.1?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>thanks 73 neil
k8it</FONT></DIV>
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