<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well said Doug. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s true that AllStar never IDs on the link, only on the RF side.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Politics aside, if someone was to build an IRLP gateway by hard wiring an AllStar URI to an IRLP box, the ID would come out because that connects the radio side to IRLP. In fact you’d get the IRLP ID on AllStar as well as the AllStar on IRLP. Which of course is a huge technical no-no. The obvious reason is that if two stations did that you have a never ending cycle of IDs. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" class="">doug@crompton.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="hmmessage"><div dir="ltr" class=""><font style="" face="Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">I guess I did not explain that well. duplex=0 | 1 would ID but only to the local connected radio so no one connected should hear it. But there are all kinds of ways you can get ID on the Internet side with a repeater by not setting things up properly. Especially when you are using a simplex node into a repeater remotely. In that case the repeater output PL has to follow the input signal. Then you would not generally hear the ID unless the repeater ID'ed over the incoming signal.<br class=""><br class="">I have to a agree though. IRLP is a PITA. Most IRLP reflector gestapo administrators will jump on you for the slightest infraction. That includes the reflector that was mentioned. But that being said you would not want a local ID going out to the connected nodes in any voip system.<br class=""><br class="">So the facts are, you need ID on a local RF node to be legal, it does not go out to the Internet from Allstar, If someone is hearing it you probably have something misconfigured outside of Allstar or it is coming from another node.<br class=""><br class="">I would suggest that you connect to another Allstar node and force your ID - *80 - and see if they hear it. If the IRLP guys would work with you on this then maybe they could test.<br class=""><br class="">On the IRLP/Echolink connect issue. That is their issue not ours. Echolink is a part of the Allstar releases and it is often used incoming to Allstar and it is at times a useful tool. There are also several IRLP to Allstar gateways that are used daily. The Alaska Morning net is an example. While not explicitly condoned they are tolerated and again useful. Officially they don't want us to connect but unless it is abused I doubt there will be anything done. The reasons I have heard is that echolink thinks we don't check well enough for non-amateur use and IRLP's moto is nothing but radio connections - no computer, phone, etc. Now you know why Allstar rules!<br id="FontBreak" class=""></font><br class=""><b class=""><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" class="">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><hr id="stopSpelling" class="">From: <a href="mailto:tim.sawyer@mac.com" class="">tim.sawyer@mac.com</a><br class="">Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:01:17 -0700<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" class="">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] CW ID<br class=""><br class="">Doug,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I thought duplex= 0 or 1 would ID. But I don’t run that mode so I wouldn’t bet you on it… put I’m pretty sure that’s correct.<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote class=""><div class="">On Apr 16, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" class="">doug@crompton.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class=""><font face="Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">That is true unless YOU are running a repeater and don't have it setup properly. Are you running full duplex? What do you have have your duplex= set to in rpt.conf?<br class=""><br class="">If it is set to 0 or 1 then the CWID will not go out. <span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Also if someone is connected to you via Allstar and you are connected to that reflector and the other Allstar node is sending ID you would be blamed as it would appear it was coming from you.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""></font><b class=""><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><hr id="ecxstopSpelling" class="">Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:40:38 -0400<br class="">From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jrorke@cogeco.ca" class="">jrorke@cogeco.ca</a><br class="">To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" class="">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br class="">Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] CW ID<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Allstar nodes don't send CW ids down the links. At least they are not supposed to. Maybe someone blamed you but it was coming from a different source.<br class="">The CW id should only be coming out on your transmitter only.<br class=""><br class="">Jon VA3RQ<br class=""><br class="">On 4/16/2015 9:21 PM, Hugo Escalante wrote:<blockquote cite="mid:CA+EaPa+OuhTg2OT=gm2Q6aHm4mxNwDcNXV2W61BkmBNZFfaeFw@mail.gmail.com" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Doug,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just want to get rid of the CW ID, I have received complaints on the Node 27339 East Coast Reflector that my CW ID is not permitted.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hugo</div><div class="">K7HJE</div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Doug Crompton<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank" class="">doug@crompton.com</a>></span><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Tahoma,sans-serif" class="">Well if you are using it on a radio an ID is required but I am sure you know that.<br class=""><br class="">Do you want to get rid of all ID's or just the cw id?<br class=""><br class="">The main cw ID is the idrecording= command in rpt.conf<br class=""><br class="">idtalkover= is the ID that is played when someone keys up during the idrecording id.<br class=""><br class="">In other words iof you have idrecording set ot a voice ID and idtalkover set to a CW ID then if the voice ID is playing and someone keys up it will immediately switch to the CW ID.<br class=""><br class=""></font><b class=""><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class="">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4" class=""><br class=""></font><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">> From:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ewplinc@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ewplinc@gmail.com</a><br class="">> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 21:24:59 -0400<br class="">> To:<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" target="_blank" class="">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br class="">> Subject: [arm-allstar] CW ID<span class=""><br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Any help on getting rid of my CW ID on my AllStar Node.<br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hugo<br class="">> K7HJE<br class=""></span>> _______________________________________________<br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> arm-allstar mailing list<br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" target="_blank" class="">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Visit the BBB web page -<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br class="">><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">arm-allstar mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" class="">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br class=""><br class="">Visit the BBB web page -<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><fieldset class="ecxmimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre class="">_______________________________________________
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