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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><font style="" color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Randy,<br><br>  Glad to hear you solved the problem. I can't see how the keyboard wired or unwired would have caused analog distortion though. Perhpas it was a digital problem. In any event as was mentioned you do not need a keyboard or monitor to run or to setup BBB Allstar. No one that I know runs it that way. You ssh in using putty from another computer and log in.<br id="FontBreak"></font><br><b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 06:22:32 -0500<br>From: randy@neals.ca<br>To: arm-allstar@hamvoip.org<br>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] BBB URI USB-HUB Distorted Audio<br><br><div dir="ltr"><br>Hi all,<br><br>The sound is like a hum and at higher audio levels makes the audio distorted.<br>The USB keyboard seems to be the culprit.<br>Tried the USB hub powered and not-powered, did not make a difference.<br><br>Now that I have the node setup, I won't need the keyboard - so will leave it unplugged.<br>I'll get a different brand keyboard and see if that makes a difference.<br><br>Anyway, node 28701 is now on the air - VE3PBO.<br><br>thanks,<div>Randy<br><br></div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Doug Crompton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">


<div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">There is probably no reason to power a powered USB hub. I run the Belkin 4 port with DMK URI, Wireless FOB, USB memory stick, and USB to serial converter without powering it.<br><br>The only touchy one would be the wireless fob which can draw more current but most other things you would connect will work fine without power.  <br></font><span><br><b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a></font></b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br></font><br><br></span><div><hr>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 14:02:56 -0500<br>From: <a href="mailto:kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com" target="_blank">kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" target="_blank">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] BBB URI USB-HUB Distorted Audio<div><div class="h5"><br><br>
  
    
  
  
    <div>To add to this, the problem may be
      using a USB hub itself for power and a low quality one.<br>
      <br>
      1. Use a quality 2 amp 5V power source. Not a USB phone charger
      type.<br>
      2. Don't connect a keyboard to the BBB. There's no need for it.
      Use ssh to administer your node from another computer on your
      network.<br>
      3. Don't connect a monitor to it either.<br>
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      In short, just use the USB port for the sound card/FOB. And don't
      use a USB hub at all.<br>
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      73!<br>
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      On 1/1/2015 1:33 PM, Robert Pantazes wrote:<br>
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        <div style="font-family:arial black,sans-serif;font-size:large;">Doug,<br>
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        <div style="font-family:arial black,sans-serif;font-size:large;">Sounds like 60 Hz is on the
          audio.<br>
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        <div style="font-family:arial black,sans-serif;font-size:large;">Bob, W2ARP<br>
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        <div>On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Doug
          Crompton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com" target="_blank">doug@crompton.com</a>></span>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Randy,<br>
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                    I guess my first question is it truly hum or
                  distortion? You said distortion and I think what you
                  need to nail down is it a digital or analog problem. 
                  Some questions...<br>
                  <br>
                  Are you using 1.2.1 code? Have you changed the startup
                  delay time which defaults to 30 seconds?<br>
                  <br>
                  If this is just hum what frequency is it? 60 cycles,
                  120 cycles or higher?<br>
                  <br>
                  Is it happening in both directions TX and RX?<br>
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                  A lot of people use the DMK and cheap USB fobs and
                  this is the first I have heard of any analog problems
                  especially when there is not readio connected and no
                  potential ground loops.<br>
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                <font face="Tahoma,sans-serif">Happy New Year!</font><br>
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                <b><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">73 Doug</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br>
                  </font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4">WA3DSP</font><font style="font-size:16pt;" size="4"><br>
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                  <hr>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 02:42:25 -0500<br>
                  From: <a href="mailto:randy@neals.ca" target="_blank">randy@neals.ca</a><br>
                  To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org" target="_blank">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
                  Subject: [arm-allstar] BBB URI USB-HUB Distorted Audio<br>
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                    I've been experiencing a distorted audio problem
                    while setting up a BBB with powered USB-HUB, DMK
                    URI, and USB Keyboard.<br>
                    <br>
                    The audio distortion is noticeable on audio from the
                    node. (transmit audio)<br>
                    To eliminate/isolate the issue I swapped out the URI
                    for a SYBA USB Audio FOB and PC speakers.<br>
                    Still the same background hum/distortion. So that
                    eliminated RF interference, ground loops, the URI
                    and the radio.<br>
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                    Through further elimination, I have identified that
                    when my USB keyboard is connected to the USB HUB,
                    the hum/distortion is louder. (URI through USB HUB
                    to BBB, no Keyboard)<br>
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                    And then have compared the audio when not using a
                    USB hub at all, and I think there is a further
                    improvement in audio, although not as major as when
                    the keyboard is /is-not connected.<br>
                    <br>
                    My next troubleshooting step is to swap out the
                    keyboard, and then swap out the USB HUB.<br>
                    <br>
                    The USB Hub I'm using is an AmazonBasics 4 Port USB
                    3.0 Hub with 5V/2.5A power adapter
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                      <li style="list-style:disc;word-wrap:break-word;"><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);">Package includes:
                          1 USB 3.0 4 Port Hub / 1 5V/2.5A Power Adapter
                          / 1 built in 10 inch USB 3.0 cable / 1 Owner's
                          Manual</span></li>
                      <li style="list-style:disc;word-wrap:break-word;"><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);">Compatible with
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                      <li style="list-style:disc;word-wrap:break-word;"><span style="color:rgb(17,17,17);">Support auto
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