<div dir="ltr">Other than ping to test for packet loss, I have relied on <a href="http://speedtest.net">speedtest.net</a> to provide a gauge of my Internet service. The speedtest web site has a link to Pingtest. Neither my Verizon hotspot account nor my AT&T (iphone tether) data account pass pingtest. No router - computer to hotspot. I'm using a Java-capable browser on a MacBook Pro. Could someone else give this site a try from a hotspot to see if it provides an accurate picture of packet loss? What other tools are in the networking toolbox to keep an eye on general throughput and quality?<div>
<br></div><div>John </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM, David McGough <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net" target="_blank">kb4fxc@inttek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Yes, a bullet is fine, too.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:<br>
<br>
> Great thoughts, David. Thank you! Would an Ubiquity Bullet2 work as well -<br>
> in bridge mode, I'm guessing? Got a couple of those around here somewhere<br>
> along with a gain antenna and POE adapter.<br>
><br>
> J.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, David McGough <<a href="mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net">kb4fxc@inttek.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Aha! ...Interesting. For now, until you've got a workaable router, you<br>
> > might consider bypassing the router entirely and just using the hotspot<br>
> > for access. That would require a WiFi adapter to plug into the BBB. I'd<br>
> > recommend using an Ethernet-attached adapter, not USB. Something like a<br>
> > Ubiquiti LocoM2 or Picostation. I've used both of these and know for<br>
> > certain that they work very well with no software changes. Then, use<br>
> > OpenVPN (already installed on the BBB) to access a VPN provider if<br>
> > needed. I know this works, too.<br>
> ><br>
> > See:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EA1AW8701" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EA1AW8701</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4KF1HA8725" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4KF1HA8725</a><br>
> ><br>
> > VPN provider configs. These guys charge about $6 a month.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.ipvanish.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ipvanish.com/</a><br>
> > <a href="http://www.ipvanish.com/software/configs/" target="_blank">http://www.ipvanish.com/software/configs/</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > 73, David KB4FXC<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > OK, this is weird.... I bypassed my router and connected (via wifi)<br>
> > > directly to the Verizon hotspot:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ---<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">www.google.com</a> ping statistics ---<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 61 packets transmitted, 61 packets received, 0.0% packet loss<br>
> > ><br>
> > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 131.882/153.472/197.885/10.463 ms<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ----<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Not great, but considerably better. Perhaps it's time for a firmware<br>
> > reload<br>
> > > on the router? The router does have the most recent firmware, that's the<br>
> > > first thing I checked when I got it.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > J.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John <<a href="mailto:wb5nfc@gmail.com">wb5nfc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > I'm definitely ready to set up a VPN if that will solve the problem.<br>
> > > > What's worrisome is the up and down nature of my quality of service.<br>
> > > > Example: This is a ping of Google from my router just a few minutes ago<br>
> > > > using Verizon. The first 11 pings were consistent, then timeout.<br>
> > > > .....<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=5.<br>
> > > > time=168.665. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=6.<br>
> > > > time=161.438. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=7.<br>
> > > > time=198.898. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=8.<br>
> > > > time=164.530. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=9.<br>
> > > > time=162.396. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=10.<br>
> > > > time=210.886. ms<br>
> > > > 64 bytes from <a href="http://ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net" target="_blank">ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net</a> (74.125.225.80): icmp_seq=11.<br>
> > > > time=172.347. ms<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Timed out trying to send a packet to <a href="http://www.google.com" target="_blank">www.google.com</a><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Even when I change to another carrier (AT&T) I get similar results. I'm<br>
> > > > guessing this is why everything will be working just fine for a few<br>
> > > > minutes, then I'm disconnected. I won't be able to connect to anything<br>
> > > > (Allstar or Echolink) for a while, then next time I try, connection is<br>
> > fine<br>
> > > > for a few minutes. Very frustrating.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > John<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM, David McGough <<a href="mailto:kb4fxc@inttek.net">kb4fxc@inttek.net</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Hi John,<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> I don't have familiarity with the routers you're using, but, I know<br>
> > it can<br>
> > > >> be made to work--I used a Verizon 4G smartphone HotSpot at a club<br>
> > meeting<br>
> > > >> recently to provide a connection for a BBB.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> This scenario didn't get me a "live" IP address or any port<br>
> > forwarding.<br>
> > > >> So, it required that I run a VPN (outbound) to obtain a live address.<br>
> > If<br>
> > > >> you can't find a way to get port forwarding working, there are<br>
> > numerous<br>
> > > >> VPN providers out there for a few dollars a month.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> 73, David KB4FXC<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> > Correct, Doug. Email and general web surfing are fine. We don't do<br>
> > any<br>
> > > >> > streaming video because of our data cap. I normally have the<br>
> > ethernet<br>
> > > >> port<br>
> > > >> > on the BBB plugged in to a Cradlepoint CTR35 router configured for<br>
> > Wifi<br>
> > > >> as<br>
> > > >> > WAN. I was never able to get the BBB operational when I tried to<br>
> > connect<br>
> > > >> > the BBB directly to the ethernet port on a different router<br>
> > tethered to<br>
> > > >> the<br>
> > > >> > hotspot.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > John<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>><br>
> > > >> wrote:<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > John,<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > We may have been down this road before but is there a way to get<br>
> > > >> wired<br>
> > > >> > > Ethernet off of the router or is there a router you can get that<br>
> > has<br>
> > > >> wired<br>
> > > >> > > Ethernet for your service? That would always be the way to go with<br>
> > > >> the BBB<br>
> > > >> > > as it would be a whole lot easier and avoid a hub and wifi<br>
> > adapter. I<br>
> > > >> am<br>
> > > >> > > assuming this is not a connection problem you have in general with<br>
> > > >> > > everything you are trying to connect but just the BBB on wifi??<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://<a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br>
> > > >> > > <<a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a>>*<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > ------------------------------<br>
> > > >> > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:46:11 -0500<br>
> > > >> > > From: <a href="mailto:wb5nfc@gmail.com">wb5nfc@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > >> > > To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] WiFi With BBB?<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > It looks like I'm fighting a losing battle trying to use 4G<br>
> > LTE-based<br>
> > > >> > > Internet service for Allstar/Echolink. Sometimes it works,<br>
> > sometimes<br>
> > > >> it<br>
> > > >> > > doesn't...<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > This is extremely disappointing since cell phone data service is<br>
> > my<br>
> > > >> only<br>
> > > >> > > means of access to the Internet as a full-time RVer.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > I've been attempting to use a Verizon-based hotspot with limited<br>
> > > >> success.<br>
> > > >> > > Yesterday, I gave up my 'unlimited' data account on my iPhone<br>
> > just to<br>
> > > >> see<br>
> > > >> > > if ATT data service was any better. It's not. In fact, I have more<br>
> > > >> packet<br>
> > > >> > > loss with ATT (63% during a ping test just now).<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > If anyone knows any tweaks to make the best of a bad situation,<br>
> > I'd<br>
> > > >> love<br>
> > > >> > > to hear 'em.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > John<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Christopher Kovacs <<br>
> > > >> <a href="mailto:w0anm73@gmail.com">w0anm73@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > >> > > wrote:<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > I am using WiFi on one of my nodes. I tried my phones hot spot,<br>
> > but<br>
> > > >> too<br>
> > > >> > > much packet issues. If I am using WiFi home network, I get good<br>
> > > >> results.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > I'll be sending out set information later about setting up WIFi<br>
> > with<br>
> > > >> the<br>
> > > >> > > BBB.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Cheers,<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Chris. w0anm<br>
> > > >> > > On Aug 17, 2014 4:17 PM, "Ramon Gonzalez" <<a href="mailto:kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com">kp4tr.ramon@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > > >> wrote:<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > I setup wifi using wpa supplicant. Works fine using edimax usb<br>
> > wifi.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Problem with BBB is it only has 1 usb port so you would need a usb<br>
> > > >> hub. Im<br>
> > > >> > > using a small non powered one and works ok, but sometimes wifi<br>
> > just<br>
> > > >> plain<br>
> > > >> > > doesnt want to connect.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > On Sunday, August 17, 2014, Doug Crompton <<a href="mailto:doug@crompton.com">doug@crompton.com</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > John,<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Yes, we have that working and the documentation will be out<br>
> > shortly.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > *73 Doug WA3DSPhttp://<a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">www.crompton.com/hamradio</a><br>
> > > >> > > <<a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio</a>>*<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > ------------------------------<br>
> > > >> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:31:42 -0500<br>
> > > >> > > From: <a href="mailto:wb5nfc@gmail.com">wb5nfc@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > >> > > To: <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > Subject: [arm-allstar] WiFi With BBB?<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Anyone using their BBB with a usb wifi adaptor? Doing so might<br>
> > help me<br>
> > > >> > > simplify my mobile node setup if I could connect directly to my<br>
> > Wifi<br>
> > > >> > > Hotspot rather than going through an additional router. Any<br>
> > thoughts?<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > John<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ arm-allstar<br>
> > mailing<br>
> > > >> list<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > Visit<br>
> > > >> the<br>
> > > >> > > BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > --<br>
> > > >> > > Sent from Gmail Mobile<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > --<br>
> > > >> > > John Kenney<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ arm-allstar<br>
> > mailing<br>
> > > >> list<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > Visit<br>
> > > >> the<br>
> > > >> > > BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> > > <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> arm-allstar mailing list<br>
> > > >> <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > > >> <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Visit the BBB web page -<br>
> > > >> <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > --<br>
> > > > John Kenney<br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> ><br>
> > arm-allstar mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:arm-allstar@hamvoip.org">arm-allstar@hamvoip.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar" target="_blank">http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Visit the BBB web page -<br>
> > <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Visit the BBB web page - <a href="http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/" target="_blank">http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>John Kenney
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