[arm-allstar] Looping problem

[Don Rolph]

Hmm, the id looping behavior is an artifact of the AllStar design decisions.

IRLP and Echolink also face the same design problems AND Echolink has
adopted a design response which seems to resolve the ID looping issue.
Is there a reason you would not want to consider design approaches of
similar software in an effort to address the Allstar id looping issue?

Why would you not look at similar software to see how they address similar
design challenges?

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:47 AM "Chris Smart via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Hi don. At present, we're trying to solve a specific problem. Let's
> leave Echolink to the side for now...
>
>
> besides, ever compared the audio between Echolink and Allstar? :)
>
>
>
> On 2021-05-05 7:34 a.m., "Don Rolph via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > Actually easily resolved IF one can ensure that telemetry and id only
> > occurs at the end of an  AllStar/Echolink connection,  This is one of the
> > options in Echolink software, but not present in AllStar, which greatly
> > mitigates this problem.
> >
> > A paper study suggests that with an appropriate id interval AND an
> > appropriate politeid interval, it seems this Echolink software behavior
> can
> > be approximated, but I need to experiment some more.
> >
> > On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:21 AM "Patrick Perdue via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> >> And also, if you can, use gated PL on the repeater such that only PL
> >> comes through with voice, not telemetry. This way, IDs, hangtime  and
> >> repeater tones won't come back across the network. If you can't directly
> >> connect the node to a controller and must use an RF link, this is the
> >> next best thing. Not only will this (hopefully) eliminate pingponging,
> >> it will also make things much more responsive for remote users.
> >>
> >> This is a problem I see with many remote echolink connections. No gated
> >> PL, and driven by vox. Makes for a pretty painful experience.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/5/2021 6:20 AM, "Don Rolph via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >>> Try setting duplex to 0.
> >>>
> >>> If you set duplex to 1, turn off courtesy tones with nounkeyct=1. This
> >>> however results in ping ponging of the 10 minute id of the repeater and
> >> the
> >>> AllStar node.
> >>>
> >>> This is a deep nagging problem with using AllStar on a repeater link.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:45 PM "Mark Richardson via ARM-allstar" <
> >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am setting up an AllStar node with the plan to link it to our local
> >>>> repeater by RF.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything is working fine if I put the radio on a Simplex frequency,
> >> but
> >>>> if
> >>>> I use a Repeater split I get a looping where the radio cycles between
> >>>> transmit and receive and a beep is heard with each cycle. It seems to
> >> begin
> >>>> the first time the radio transmits and then continues.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm hoping someone has encountered something like this before and will
> >> have
> >>>> some suggestions for me.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am using a Standard GX3000V radio with a Masters Communications
> AR-35
> >>>> interface and a Raspberry PI 3.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Richardson
> >>>>
> >>>> VA3OBO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph