[arm-allstar] the proverbial no audio problem, again

David McGough kb4fxc at inttek.net
Sun Sep 22 23:28:31 EDT 2019


Noel,

For TS-2000 using the ACC2 connection, the mic audio is pin 11, mic audio 
ground is pin 12.  For PTT, use pin 9 and pull it to ground (pin 8). Note 
that there is an alternate PTT (pin 13) as well. Using pin 13 doesn't use 
the audio from pin 11. Rather, it uses the audio from the front (standard) 
mic jack. Pin 13 would be for a PTT foot-switch or other device, while 
using a mic plugged in the front panel.

While there are 2 RX audio/COS outputs (main and sub RX), there is only a 
single TX input. You must pre-select either the main or sub radio as the 
default side to transmit on.

I've never had any problems getting a TS-2000 radio to work. The only 
issue for HF use is that these radios lack a SSB syllabic squelch, which 
is the preferred way to obtain COS for HF use.

73, David KB4FXC


On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, Noel Romey wrote:

> David,
> 
> Thanks for your message.  I was able to get audio into Windows and the
> system does seem to recognize telemetry when things rae keyed.  The
> only issue remains the transmission of audio which (1) could be a
> pinning problem or (2) could could be a problem with the URI.  I
> remember that on the TS2000 there are two outs, one for the main, and
> one for the sub (tx A and tx B.  We wired for both if I remember
> correctly.  The in is determined by teh menu selection whether it's
> going to come from sum or main audio -- correct me if I'm wrong here.
> In teletry I get something like clear most of the time when quelch is
> closed and when I transmit or when it's open, I get ptt is keyed and
> squelch detect / coss (I think that's what it is) as enabled.
> 
> At this point, I think I've ticked all the boxes, and the last thing
> to check is to wait for the Alinco to get here so I can definitively
> rule out the URI as the problem.  Please note I have check and
> rechecked the settings in the menu and they are correct.
> 
> Sorry for the lng detailed message--I just wanted to let you and the
> list know that I haven't left a stone unturned.
> 
> Some day I'll get onto Allstar.  At least I know Linux administration well :).
> 
> Noel
> >
> >> On Sep 19, 2019, at 11:05 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Noel,
> >>
> >> From what I think you're saying, the TS-2000 is transmitting audio
> >> coming from the URi (AllStar), but no audio received by the TS-2000 gets
> >> back to the URi (AllStar)?  Is this correct?
> >>
> >> If this is the case, be aware that there are two receive audio pins and
> >> two COS pins on the TS-2000 ACC2 connector. One pair are for the main RX
> >> (audio pin 3, COS pin 5) and comes from the HF portion of the radio.  The
> >> second pair are for the sub RX (audio pin 1, COS pin 7), which is VHF/UHF
> >> audio.  Make sure the correct TS-2000 RX audio pins are wired to the URi.
> >>
> >> Also, the ACC2 audio levels are adjusted via the radio's menu system.
> >> Check the options under menu 50.
> >>
> >> BTW, the TS-2000 works fine with AllStar, I've used one.  Also, I guess
> >> you are getting a COS telemetry signal from the TS-2000, when it's
> >> receiving? You can check this in the simpleusb-tune-menu program, option
> >> V
> >> (letter Vee), which shows real-time telemetry signaling.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, David KB4FXC
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, "Noel Romey via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi guys.
> >>>
> >>> My name is Noel, K5NER and I am new to Allstar.  I am currently trying
> >>> to use a Kenwood TS-2000 as my transceiver, mainly because I have it.
> >>> I had Marshal build me a cable, and in going over the wiring diagram
> >>> per the K2000 manual, we think it should work.  I also berified using
> >>> a RixExpert interface that audio does in fact go out via ACC2 on the
> >>> radio.  Ok, background finished, now let's go to the meat of the
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>> I have read the multiple threads which purport to other hams having a
> >>> similar problem, but never really determined what they did to fix it.
> >>> Here's what appears to happen.  I am using a URIXB with Eprom.  Right
> >>> now, my node is completely fresh as I zapped it multiple times to see
> >>> if I saw any appreciable differences.
> >>> 1. When I key up, I get a squelch tail from my radio. This tells me
> >>> that the URI is detecting some audio or the squelch is working.
> >>> 2. When I run simple tune and attempt echo testing, or anything
> >>> transmits for that matter, I get carrier from the radio.
> >>> 3. I have tried TX Invert on and off. PTT obviously works perfectly
> >>> with no problems.
> >>> 4. Linux detects the URIXB as a valid and working audio device.
> >>> 5. I am totally blind, but I am not sure if it's reading any audio
> >>> meter (on the weird visual-ish meter page in simpletune). Odd thing
> >>> that I didn't understand was that it did squelch tail after I
> >>> transmitted so I think rx is working.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am seriously considering scrapping the kenwood ts-2000 experiment
> >>> and getting an Alinco dr.435T which is accessible and a mobile rig.
> >>> Then I could still use the Kenwood for receive when I wanted to move
> >>> the node to full duplex and when I wasn't using the KTS2000 for HF.
> >>>
> >>> For now though, I wonder if anyone on list has any ideas as to what I
> >>> am missing?  At the moment I will need to redo an image/reset the node
> >>> again, but I may need someone to visually have a look as, for obvious
> >>> reasons, I am unable to run a probe on the URI pins to determine if
> >>> voltage is happening when I send audio out--it is possible, I just
> >>> don't have a talking multimeter at the moment.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your help and I'm sorry I haven't written sooner. I just
> >>> wanted to see if I could figure this thing out myself
> >>> first--apparently I've hit a brick wall.
> >>>
> >>> All the best and 73 de K5NER.
> >>>
> >>> Noel Near Richmond, VA
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