[arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node

Jesse Royall w5los at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 15 15:34:10 EDT 2019


Good example of why my radio less node is using google cloud compute. 

I travel a lot in my RV and like the echolink connections and the ability for people to dial into my node when they choose. However, most parks have a firewall I don’t have access to. So I can port forward. At when requesting this I get this deer in the headlights look right before it gets smacked. 

So I setup a ASL node with echolink and a DMR bridge that needed port forwarding. The only thing I don’t have is a irlp bridge right now. 

Now I can send commands to my remote node and control it and friends can connect to me when they want to on demand. So when I’m in a area using internet I can’t control, I am connected to it from the park. 

Most of the time I just tell people my hosted node if they want to connect since I connected to it most of the time. 

The other problem I have ran into, my local FD is hosting one of my repeaters. Again I can’t control the internet so no one can dial in. Now people can dial my hosted node, which is connected permanently, and go out the local repeater.  

Just a few examples of why I do it. 


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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> Joshua,
> 
> Are you on Allstar????  It seems like you don't understand the concepts of
> how it operates. The Alstar system connects widely separated nodes via the
> Internet. Your local RF is your business and responsibility. Lets say your
> node was connected to several other repeater nodes throughout the country.
> That means RF users in your area would be able to talk to both operators
> there and in the other areas you are connected to.
> 
> I am really not sure what you are missing here? The idea of the hub at a
> data center is when the owner of the hub does not have good enough Internet
> to have multiple users connecting. So lets say that was the case for you.
> So you put a hub at a data center, then all those locations including
> yourself connect to it. You all can talk to each other. You maintain the
> hub even though it is not at your location.
> 
> If you are just using Allstar as a repeater controller or you are only
> connecting on a small scale the data center approach would be way over kill.
> 
> 
> *73 Doug*
> 
> *WA3DSP*
> 
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 2:50 PM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
>> My final response trying to clarify why I am confused. I guess I am just
>> stuck on stupid because when I look at my node here in Texas I see an RF
>> repeater. Sure I could send my node to my brother in Ohio but how would
>> that help my HT with signal propagation? Whether or not I have internet in
>> Texas, the node being in Ohio certainly will not help me when I press the
>> PTT button from Texas. I am just missing the middle link to how it all
>> makes sense.
>> 
>> Computers for example.. I lease servers, but I connect to them with my
>> laptop. If someone were to lease a node, how would their radio possibly
>> connect to it?
>> 
>> Jae
>> KG5EBI
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 1:05 PM <arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>   1. Re: Advantages of a hosted hub node (Joshua Nulton)
>>>   2. Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect & disconnect at
>>>      particular times (Rachid Karroo)
>>>   3. Re: Advantages of a hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
>>>   4. Re: Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect & disconnect
>>>      at particular times (Doug Crompton)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:19:16 -0500
>>> From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
>>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <
>>> CAOpEAy5SW5VS9tC7xmBKuaerDPfXr7HqffOrFTQmgqZ5SrKUvw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> I agree most are interested for the "social" aspects. I can think of one
>>> major advantage and that is people that can not forward their ports or
>> want
>>> AIX access on the road. They can have their normal node connect
>>> persistently to their "hub" and forward their DTMF commands to the remote
>>> node, making their personal node more or less act as a proxy to bypass
>>> connectivity issues.
>>> 
>>> I guess I am just fishing for more reasons to be interested in the
>> Pi-Farm
>>> Doug, where has your marketing intuition gone? haha :)
>>> 
>>> What would be the advantages of renting space on the farm? I am not being
>>> negative, I really am trying to underatand the idea. :)
>>> 
>>> KG5EBI
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 11:00 AM <arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>>   1. Re: use an alternate network interface for vpn (David McGough)
>>>>   2. Re: Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image (David McGough)
>>>>   3. Advantages of hosted hub node (Joshua Nulton)
>>>>   4. Re: Advantages of hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
>>>>   5. ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Mike Besemer)
>>>>   6. Re: ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Doug Crompton)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:45:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> To: "\"Tony Ross via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] use an alternate network interface for vpn
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150943540.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
>>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tony,
>>>> 
>>>> Did you get this resolved?  If not, I'll send you more info for a
>>>> solution.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, "Tony Ross via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry for all the "???..." clutter that resulted from a use of
>>>>> fixed-width font. To re-phrase my request:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How to use the ztly5vn64v 192.168.192.142 vpn interface, instead of
>> the
>>>>> wlan0 192.168.1.30 interface, please.
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>> To: "\"Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>> Cc: Brad Trogdon <Brad at trogdon.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150950120.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
>>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Brad,
>>>> 
>>>> Take a look at the acme-tiny software. It's very easy to use for
>>>> generating single-site (not wildcard)  certificates.  If you need info
>>> for
>>>> configuring apache/tls in the HamVoIP distro, send me a follow-up
>>> message.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the software. The instructions are on this page, too:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny
>>>> 
>>>> I'm running apache/tls on several RPi3 systems and it works great.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, "Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,  I anticipate this is kind-off off topic but is specific
>> to
>>>> the
>>>>> HamVoIP image.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am current in updates and wanting to install a SSL cert on the
>>>> Raspberry
>>>>> Pi which is running my node.  I have been directed to Certbot.com and
>>>> they
>>>>> have step by step instructions specific to OS and WebServer.  In our
>>> case
>>>>> Apache and Arch Linux.  (URL to Page:
>>>>> https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/arch-apache)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I fail at Step 1 trying to install the packages.
>>>>> 
>>>>> sudo pacman -S certbot certbot-apache
>>>>> 
>>>>> Results in error:
>>>>> 
>>>>> error: target not found: certbot
>>>>> error: target not found: certbot-apache
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not want to break my ability to maintain updates for HamVoIP and
>>>>> thought I would ask the experts before proceeding.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Brad
>>>>> ~~
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:59:55 +0700
>>>> From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
>>>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>> Subject: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <
>>>> CAOpEAy4kawustLBR_sByjNNQTSN78mYHSj9ASNM+SndtT7ifZQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>> I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
>> advantageous
>>> to
>>>> those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
>> but
>>> I
>>>> am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
>>> y'all
>>>> name as many as you can think of please?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jae
>>>> KG5EBI
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:12:18 -0400
>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <
>>>> CAMp6vsuteaXnqdurX4FLh0gnQW8YamB++68cUFfomiHWwwsNbQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Joshua,
>>>> 
>>>> In Allstar people tend to conflate the word "hub" with something
>> special.
>>>> Maybe it is because on IRLP where you have to ask for permission to be
>>>> granted and run a reflector.  In Allstar terminology a "hub" is simply
>> a
>>>> connection point where there are two or more other nodes connected. It
>> is
>>>> an understanding among a group of people that they will all connect to
>>> one
>>>> node.  Anyone can create a "hub" in Allstar. There is nothing special
>>> about
>>>> it and no special configuration. As long as you have the Internet
>>> bandwidth
>>>> to do it, and in this day and age most do, you can set one up. It is
>>> more a
>>>> matter of advertising than anything else. Running hamvoip in turbo mode
>>>> without any radios a single server could easily handle 60+ connections.
>>>> There are very few "hubs" that have that many connections and in a case
>>>> where they might the load can be distributed over more than one server.
>>>> This is the beauty of Allstar because you have the flexibility to
>> create
>>>> and do this. Here is Philadelphia I run at least three hubs using 10
>>> local
>>>> servers and several remote. There are more than 65 direct connections
>>>> throughout the world. This is all done on Pi's and on a single Comcast
>>>> Internet connection.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>> 
>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>> 
>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
>>> advantageous
>>>> to
>>>>> those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
>>> but
>>>> I
>>>>> am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
>>>> y'all
>>>>> name as many as you can think of please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jae
>>>>> KG5EBI
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:44:49 -0400
>>>> From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer at cox.net>
>>>> To: "ARM Allstar" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>> Subject: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
>>>> Message-ID: <001501d52391$449ba9e0$cdd2fda0$@cox.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>>>> 
>>>> Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
>>> works
>>>> fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
>> Echolink
>>>> server being unavailable; is that correct?
>>>> 
>>>> "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
>> Echolink
>>>> server server5.echolink.org"
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> WM4B
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:57:53 -0400
>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>        <CAMp6vsu0Ac4wp-KsWtBg--3CW8vYyL0G=
>>>> yy2wg0gU8bRrAYrNw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes that is correct. We had a discussion about this last week. There
>>> must
>>>> be three servers defined in echolink.conf but only one has to actually
>>>> work. Server5 has been down for awhile now.  You can use server1, 2,
>> and
>>> 3
>>>> and that message will go away. That is as long as all of those are
>>> working.
>>>> But the bottom line is that as long as one is working and you are
>> getting
>>>> the data from it all is fine.  You can check that in the client with  -
>>>> echolink dgdump or dbget.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>> 
>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>> 
>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:47 AM "Mike Besemer via ARM-allstar" <
>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
>>>> works
>>>>> fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
>>> Echolink
>>>>> server being unavailable; is that correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
>>> Echolink
>>>>> server server5.echolink.org"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> WM4B
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:34:58 +0400
>>> From: Rachid Karroo <rkarroo at gmail.com>
>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>> Subject: [arm-allstar] Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect &
>>>        disconnect at particular times
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <
>>> CACOzSbnCqaPVM2+Af+aMjkjtGhiNTEwZx4Ed9kbwyAMbDr9kxg at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Good day to all
>>> I need to have my node to connect and disconnect to a particular Node(s)
>>> during week days.
>>> 
>>> I understand that I will have to define it in Cron jobs.
>>> Is there any documentation available that I could read and experiment
>>> please ?
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 73's
>>> 
>>> Rachid
>>> 3B8FP
>>> Node 40248
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:44:48 -0400
>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <
>>> CAMp6vsuiOApx29iFoiHE+-RoAun8ofvv5HO0Lj-GvaHhe_mTFQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Joshua,
>>> 
>>>  The only reason in my mind to have a server at a data center is if you
>> do
>>> not have good or any Internet connectibility. This is the case for more
>>> people in the US than most know. Obviously not in major metropolitan
>> areas
>>> but the US is way behind in both Internet connectivity and quality. Many
>>> other countries surpass us in getting good Internet to everyone that
>> wants
>>> it.  So in those cases the only alternative is to put the server
>> somewhere
>>> that has good Internet like a data center. The Pi farm has that in mind.
>>> Why have a PC running Allstar virtually, which BTW does not always work
>>> that well, when you can have a real Pi server running there with the best
>>> Internet possible. So that is the reason for the Pi farm. If you have
>>> Internet and are not having issues with connectivity that you don't need
>> a
>>> node at a data center. I think in the past, like 10 or more years ago, it
>>> was the norm to have large hubs run from data centers. This is no longer
>>> the case unless you are out in the sticks and have little or no Internet.
>>> Unfortunately that mindset still lingers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *73 Doug*
>>> 
>>> *WA3DSP*
>>> 
>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I agree most are interested for the "social" aspects. I can think of
>> one
>>>> major advantage and that is people that can not forward their ports or
>>> want
>>>> AIX access on the road. They can have their normal node connect
>>>> persistently to their "hub" and forward their DTMF commands to the
>> remote
>>>> node, making their personal node more or less act as a proxy to bypass
>>>> connectivity issues.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I am just fishing for more reasons to be interested in the
>>> Pi-Farm
>>>> Doug, where has your marketing intuition gone? haha :)
>>>> 
>>>> What would be the advantages of renting space on the farm? I am not
>> being
>>>> negative, I really am trying to underatand the idea. :)
>>>> 
>>>> KG5EBI
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 11:00 AM <arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Send ARM-allstar mailing list submissions to
>>>>>        arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>>>        arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>>>        arm-allstar-owner at hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>>> than "Re: Contents of ARM-allstar digest..."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   1. Re: use an alternate network interface for vpn (David McGough)
>>>>>   2. Re: Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image (David McGough)
>>>>>   3. Advantages of hosted hub node (Joshua Nulton)
>>>>>   4. Re: Advantages of hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
>>>>>   5. ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Mike Besemer)
>>>>>   6. Re: ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Doug Crompton)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:45:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>>> To: "\"Tony Ross via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] use an alternate network interface for vpn
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150943540.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net
>>> 
>>>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you get this resolved?  If not, I'll send you more info for a
>>>>> solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, "Tony Ross via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for all the "???..." clutter that resulted from a use of
>>>>>> fixed-width font. To re-phrase my request:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How to use the ztly5vn64v 192.168.192.142 vpn interface, instead of
>>> the
>>>>>> wlan0 192.168.1.30 interface, please.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
>>>>> To: "\"Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Cc: Brad Trogdon <Brad at trogdon.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150950120.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net
>>> 
>>>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take a look at the acme-tiny software. It's very easy to use for
>>>>> generating single-site (not wildcard)  certificates.  If you need
>> info
>>>> for
>>>>> configuring apache/tls in the HamVoIP distro, send me a follow-up
>>>> message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the software. The instructions are on this page, too:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm running apache/tls on several RPi3 systems and it works great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73, David KB4FXC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, "Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar" wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,  I anticipate this is kind-off off topic but is specific
>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>>> HamVoIP image.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am current in updates and wanting to install a SSL cert on the
>>>>> Raspberry
>>>>>> Pi which is running my node.  I have been directed to Certbot.com
>> and
>>>>> they
>>>>>> have step by step instructions specific to OS and WebServer.  In
>> our
>>>> case
>>>>>> Apache and Arch Linux.  (URL to Page:
>>>>>> https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/arch-apache)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I fail at Step 1 trying to install the packages.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sudo pacman -S certbot certbot-apache
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Results in error:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> error: target not found: certbot
>>>>>> error: target not found: certbot-apache
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not want to break my ability to maintain updates for HamVoIP
>> and
>>>>>> thought I would ask the experts before proceeding.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Brad
>>>>>> ~~
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ARM-allstar mailing list
>>>>>> ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:59:55 +0700
>>>>> From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> Subject: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <
>>>>> CAOpEAy4kawustLBR_sByjNNQTSN78mYHSj9ASNM+SndtT7ifZQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
>>> advantageous
>>>> to
>>>>> those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
>>> but
>>>> I
>>>>> am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
>>>> y'all
>>>>> name as many as you can think of please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jae
>>>>> KG5EBI
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:12:18 -0400
>>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <
>>>>> CAMp6vsuteaXnqdurX4FLh0gnQW8YamB++68cUFfomiHWwwsNbQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In Allstar people tend to conflate the word "hub" with something
>>> special.
>>>>> Maybe it is because on IRLP where you have to ask for permission to
>> be
>>>>> granted and run a reflector.  In Allstar terminology a "hub" is
>> simply
>>> a
>>>>> connection point where there are two or more other nodes connected.
>> It
>>> is
>>>>> an understanding among a group of people that they will all connect
>> to
>>>> one
>>>>> node.  Anyone can create a "hub" in Allstar. There is nothing special
>>>> about
>>>>> it and no special configuration. As long as you have the Internet
>>>> bandwidth
>>>>> to do it, and in this day and age most do, you can set one up. It is
>>>> more a
>>>>> matter of advertising than anything else. Running hamvoip in turbo
>> mode
>>>>> without any radios a single server could easily handle 60+
>> connections.
>>>>> There are very few "hubs" that have that many connections and in a
>> case
>>>>> where they might the load can be distributed over more than one
>> server.
>>>>> This is the beauty of Allstar because you have the flexibility to
>>> create
>>>>> and do this. Here is Philadelphia I run at least three hubs using 10
>>>> local
>>>>> servers and several remote. There are more than 65 direct connections
>>>>> throughout the world. This is all done on Pi's and on a single
>> Comcast
>>>>> Internet connection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> *
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
>>>> advantageous
>>>>> to
>>>>>> those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around
>> that,
>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node.
>> Could
>>>>> y'all
>>>>>> name as many as you can think of please?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jae
>>>>>> KG5EBI
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:44:49 -0400
>>>>> From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "ARM Allstar" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Subject: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
>>>>> Message-ID: <001501d52391$449ba9e0$cdd2fda0$@cox.net>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
>>>> works
>>>>> fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
>>> Echolink
>>>>> server being unavailable; is that correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
>>> Echolink
>>>>> server server5.echolink.org"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> WM4B
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:57:53 -0400
>>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <CAMp6vsu0Ac4wp-KsWtBg--3CW8vYyL0G=
>>>>> yy2wg0gU8bRrAYrNw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes that is correct. We had a discussion about this last week. There
>>>> must
>>>>> be three servers defined in echolink.conf but only one has to
>> actually
>>>>> work. Server5 has been down for awhile now.  You can use server1, 2,
>>> and
>>>> 3
>>>>> and that message will go away. That is as long as all of those are
>>>> working.
>>>>> But the bottom line is that as long as one is working and you are
>>> getting
>>>>> the data from it all is fine.  You can check that in the client
>> with  -
>>>>> echolink dgdump or dbget.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>>> *
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:47 AM "Mike Besemer via ARM-allstar" <
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.
>> Echolink
>>>>> works
>>>>>> fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
>>>> Echolink
>>>>>> server being unavailable; is that correct?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
>>>> Echolink
>>>>>> server server5.echolink.org"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> WM4B
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 14:05:25 -0400
>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect
>>>        & disconnect at particular times
>>> Message-ID:
>>>        <
>>> CAMp6vstANaUzZ-XR4sWiNcx0W49KDs620PDqJ-1N0CfmBjij6A at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Rachid,
>>> 
>>> This is very easy. You could do it in rpt.conf but If you want to do it
>> in
>>> a cron (that is the way I do it here)  you need to understand cron.
>> There
>>> are many sites that detail how to use it. Here is one -
>>> 
>>> https://www.adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference
>>> 
>>> So that shows you how to setup times days etc.
>>> 
>>> So lets say you want to connect a specific node at a certain time and
>> day.
>>> You use  crontab -e  and you are in the editor. Here is an example. There
>>> are spaces between the parameters!  -
>>> 
>>> # Connect to a node
>>> 30 20 * * 1 /etc/asterisk/local/connect.sh 40000
>>> 
>>> Using the script below this would connect node 40000 to your node at 8:30
>>> PM on Monday night.  Remember the first parameter is minutes and the
>> second
>>> is hour in 24 hour time. The week starts on Sunday which is 0 so the 1 is
>>> monday.
>>> 
>>> Script the cron calls -
>>> 
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>> asterisk -rx "rpt fun $NODE1 *73$1"
>>> 
>>> $NODE1 is your first node. If it is a different node on that server
>> replace
>>> with the node number. The $1 is the node parameter passed from the cron.
>>> 
>>> Save this in /etc/asterisk/local/connect.sh  and make it executable -
>> chmod
>>> 755 connect.sh
>>> 
>>> Now at the prescribed time it will connect to the requested node.  You
>>> could make another script called disconnect.sh. The lines would just be -
>>> 
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>> asterisk -rx "rpt fun $NODE1 *71$1"
>>> 
>>> I show permanent connects here but it could be *3 and *1 if you did not
>>> want that. Usually you want permanent connects though.
>>> 
>>> The flexibility of using a script would allow you to add things if you
>> like
>>> for instance you could connect to multiple nodes and do other commands
>>> within the script.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *73 Doug*
>>> 
>>> *WA3DSP*
>>> 
>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM "Rachid Karroo via ARM-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Good day to all
>>>> I need to have my node to connect and disconnect to a particular
>> Node(s)
>>>> during week days.
>>>> 
>>>> I understand that I will have to define it in Cron jobs.
>>>> Is there any documentation available that I could read and experiment
>>>> please ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 73's
>>>> 
>>>> Rachid
>>>> 3B8FP
>>>> Node 40248
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>>> 
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