[arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node

Joshua Nulton kg5ebi at gmail.com
Sat Jun 15 14:19:25 EDT 2019


My final response trying to clarify why I am confused. I guess I am just
stuck on stupid because when I look at my node here in Texas I see an RF
repeater. Sure I could send my node to my brother in Ohio but how would
that help my HT with signal propagation? Whether or not I have internet in
Texas, the node being in Ohio certainly will not help me when I press the
PTT button from Texas. I am just missing the middle link to how it all
makes sense.

Computers for example.. I lease servers, but I connect to them with my
laptop. If someone were to lease a node, how would their radio possibly
connect to it?

Jae
KG5EBI

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>    2. Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect & disconnect at
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>    3. Re: Advantages of a hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:19:16 -0500
> From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node
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> I agree most are interested for the "social" aspects. I can think of one
> major advantage and that is people that can not forward their ports or want
> AIX access on the road. They can have their normal node connect
> persistently to their "hub" and forward their DTMF commands to the remote
> node, making their personal node more or less act as a proxy to bypass
> connectivity issues.
>
> I guess I am just fishing for more reasons to be interested in the Pi-Farm
> Doug, where has your marketing intuition gone? haha :)
>
> What would be the advantages of renting space on the farm? I am not being
> negative, I really am trying to underatand the idea. :)
>
> KG5EBI
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 11:00 AM <arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org> wrote:
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> >    1. Re: use an alternate network interface for vpn (David McGough)
> >    2. Re: Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image (David McGough)
> >    3. Advantages of hosted hub node (Joshua Nulton)
> >    4. Re: Advantages of hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
> >    5. ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Mike Besemer)
> >    6. Re: ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Doug Crompton)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:45:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> > To: "\"Tony Ross via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] use an alternate network interface for vpn
> > Message-ID:
> >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150943540.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > Did you get this resolved?  If not, I'll send you more info for a
> > solution.
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, "Tony Ross via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for all the "???..." clutter that resulted from a use of
> > > fixed-width font. To re-phrase my request:
> > >
> > > How to use the ztly5vn64v 192.168.192.142 vpn interface, instead of the
> > > wlan0 192.168.1.30 interface, please.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >
> > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> > To: "\"Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Cc: Brad Trogdon <Brad at trogdon.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image
> > Message-ID:
> >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150950120.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > Take a look at the acme-tiny software. It's very easy to use for
> > generating single-site (not wildcard)  certificates.  If you need info
> for
> > configuring apache/tls in the HamVoIP distro, send me a follow-up
> message.
> >
> > Here is the software. The instructions are on this page, too:
> >
> > https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny
> >
> > I'm running apache/tls on several RPi3 systems and it works great.
> >
> >
> > 73, David KB4FXC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, "Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,  I anticipate this is kind-off off topic but is specific to
> > the
> > > HamVoIP image.
> > >
> > > I am current in updates and wanting to install a SSL cert on the
> > Raspberry
> > > Pi which is running my node.  I have been directed to Certbot.com and
> > they
> > > have step by step instructions specific to OS and WebServer.  In our
> case
> > > Apache and Arch Linux.  (URL to Page:
> > > https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/arch-apache)
> > >
> > > I fail at Step 1 trying to install the packages.
> > >
> > > sudo pacman -S certbot certbot-apache
> > >
> > > Results in error:
> > >
> > > error: target not found: certbot
> > > error: target not found: certbot-apache
> > >
> > > I do not want to break my ability to maintain updates for HamVoIP and
> > > thought I would ask the experts before proceeding.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
> > >
> > > -Brad
> > > ~~
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >
> > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:59:55 +0700
> > From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
> > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > Subject: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
> > Message-ID:
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> > CAOpEAy4kawustLBR_sByjNNQTSN78mYHSj9ASNM+SndtT7ifZQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be advantageous
> to
> > those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that, but
> I
> > am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
> y'all
> > name as many as you can think of please?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jae
> > KG5EBI
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:12:18 -0400
> > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CAMp6vsuteaXnqdurX4FLh0gnQW8YamB++68cUFfomiHWwwsNbQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Joshua,
> >
> > In Allstar people tend to conflate the word "hub" with something special.
> > Maybe it is because on IRLP where you have to ask for permission to be
> > granted and run a reflector.  In Allstar terminology a "hub" is simply a
> > connection point where there are two or more other nodes connected. It is
> > an understanding among a group of people that they will all connect to
> one
> > node.  Anyone can create a "hub" in Allstar. There is nothing special
> about
> > it and no special configuration. As long as you have the Internet
> bandwidth
> > to do it, and in this day and age most do, you can set one up. It is
> more a
> > matter of advertising than anything else. Running hamvoip in turbo mode
> > without any radios a single server could easily handle 60+ connections.
> > There are very few "hubs" that have that many connections and in a case
> > where they might the load can be distributed over more than one server.
> > This is the beauty of Allstar because you have the flexibility to create
> > and do this. Here is Philadelphia I run at least three hubs using 10
> local
> > servers and several remote. There are more than 65 direct connections
> > throughout the world. This is all done on Pi's and on a single Comcast
> > Internet connection.
> >
> >
> > *73 Doug*
> >
> > *WA3DSP*
> >
> > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
> advantageous
> > to
> > > those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
> but
> > I
> > > am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
> > y'all
> > > name as many as you can think of please?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jae
> > > KG5EBI
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >
> > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:44:49 -0400
> > From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer at cox.net>
> > To: "ARM Allstar" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
> > Message-ID: <001501d52391$449ba9e0$cdd2fda0$@cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
> works
> > fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific Echolink
> > server being unavailable; is that correct?
> >
> > "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the Echolink
> > server server5.echolink.org"
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mike
> > WM4B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:57:53 -0400
> > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAMp6vsu0Ac4wp-KsWtBg--3CW8vYyL0G=
> > yy2wg0gU8bRrAYrNw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> >  Yes that is correct. We had a discussion about this last week. There
> must
> > be three servers defined in echolink.conf but only one has to actually
> > work. Server5 has been down for awhile now.  You can use server1, 2, and
> 3
> > and that message will go away. That is as long as all of those are
> working.
> > But the bottom line is that as long as one is working and you are getting
> > the data from it all is fine.  You can check that in the client with  -
> > echolink dgdump or dbget.
> >
> >
> > *73 Doug*
> >
> > *WA3DSP*
> >
> > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:47 AM "Mike Besemer via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
> > works
> > > fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
> Echolink
> > > server being unavailable; is that correct?
> > >
> > > "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
> Echolink
> > > server server5.echolink.org"
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > WM4B
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >
> > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:34:58 +0400
> From: Rachid Karroo <rkarroo at gmail.com>
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: [arm-allstar] Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect &
>         disconnect at particular times
> Message-ID:
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> Good day to all
> I need to have my node to connect and disconnect to a particular Node(s)
> during week days.
>
> I understand that I will have to define it in Cron jobs.
> Is there any documentation available that I could read and experiment
> please ?
>
> Thank you
> 73's
>
> Rachid
> 3B8FP
> Node 40248
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:44:48 -0400
> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of a hosted hub node
> Message-ID:
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>
> Joshua,
>
>   The only reason in my mind to have a server at a data center is if you do
> not have good or any Internet connectibility. This is the case for more
> people in the US than most know. Obviously not in major metropolitan areas
> but the US is way behind in both Internet connectivity and quality. Many
> other countries surpass us in getting good Internet to everyone that wants
> it.  So in those cases the only alternative is to put the server somewhere
> that has good Internet like a data center. The Pi farm has that in mind.
> Why have a PC running Allstar virtually, which BTW does not always work
> that well, when you can have a real Pi server running there with the best
> Internet possible. So that is the reason for the Pi farm. If you have
> Internet and are not having issues with connectivity that you don't need a
> node at a data center. I think in the past, like 10 or more years ago, it
> was the norm to have large hubs run from data centers. This is no longer
> the case unless you are out in the sticks and have little or no Internet.
> Unfortunately that mindset still lingers.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > I agree most are interested for the "social" aspects. I can think of one
> > major advantage and that is people that can not forward their ports or
> want
> > AIX access on the road. They can have their normal node connect
> > persistently to their "hub" and forward their DTMF commands to the remote
> > node, making their personal node more or less act as a proxy to bypass
> > connectivity issues.
> >
> > I guess I am just fishing for more reasons to be interested in the
> Pi-Farm
> > Doug, where has your marketing intuition gone? haha :)
> >
> > What would be the advantages of renting space on the farm? I am not being
> > negative, I really am trying to underatand the idea. :)
> >
> > KG5EBI
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 11:00 AM <arm-allstar-request at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >    1. Re: use an alternate network interface for vpn (David McGough)
> > >    2. Re: Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image (David McGough)
> > >    3. Advantages of hosted hub node (Joshua Nulton)
> > >    4. Re: Advantages of hosted hub node (Doug Crompton)
> > >    5. ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Mike Besemer)
> > >    6. Re: ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: (Doug Crompton)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:45:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> > > To: "\"Tony Ross via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] use an alternate network interface for vpn
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150943540.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony,
> > >
> > > Did you get this resolved?  If not, I'll send you more info for a
> > > solution.
> > >
> > > 73, David KB4FXC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, "Tony Ross via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry for all the "???..." clutter that resulted from a use of
> > > > fixed-width font. To re-phrase my request:
> > > >
> > > > How to use the ztly5vn64v 192.168.192.142 vpn interface, instead of
> the
> > > > wlan0 192.168.1.30 interface, please.
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> > > To: "\"Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Cc: Brad Trogdon <Brad at trogdon.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Installing SSL cert in HamVoIP image
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <Pine.LNX.4.44.1906150950120.26900-100000 at goliath.inttek.net>
> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad,
> > >
> > > Take a look at the acme-tiny software. It's very easy to use for
> > > generating single-site (not wildcard)  certificates.  If you need info
> > for
> > > configuring apache/tls in the HamVoIP distro, send me a follow-up
> > message.
> > >
> > > Here is the software. The instructions are on this page, too:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny
> > >
> > > I'm running apache/tls on several RPi3 systems and it works great.
> > >
> > >
> > > 73, David KB4FXC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, "Brad Trogdon via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,  I anticipate this is kind-off off topic but is specific
> to
> > > the
> > > > HamVoIP image.
> > > >
> > > > I am current in updates and wanting to install a SSL cert on the
> > > Raspberry
> > > > Pi which is running my node.  I have been directed to Certbot.com and
> > > they
> > > > have step by step instructions specific to OS and WebServer.  In our
> > case
> > > > Apache and Arch Linux.  (URL to Page:
> > > > https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/arch-apache)
> > > >
> > > > I fail at Step 1 trying to install the packages.
> > > >
> > > > sudo pacman -S certbot certbot-apache
> > > >
> > > > Results in error:
> > > >
> > > > error: target not found: certbot
> > > > error: target not found: certbot-apache
> > > >
> > > > I do not want to break my ability to maintain updates for HamVoIP and
> > > > thought I would ask the experts before proceeding.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
> > > >
> > > > -Brad
> > > > ~~
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:59:55 +0700
> > > From: Joshua Nulton <kg5ebi at gmail.com>
> > > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > Subject: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAOpEAy4kawustLBR_sByjNNQTSN78mYHSj9ASNM+SndtT7ifZQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
> advantageous
> > to
> > > those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
> but
> > I
> > > am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
> > y'all
> > > name as many as you can think of please?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jae
> > > KG5EBI
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:12:18 -0400
> > > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Advantages of hosted hub node
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <
> > > CAMp6vsuteaXnqdurX4FLh0gnQW8YamB++68cUFfomiHWwwsNbQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Joshua,
> > >
> > > In Allstar people tend to conflate the word "hub" with something
> special.
> > > Maybe it is because on IRLP where you have to ask for permission to be
> > > granted and run a reflector.  In Allstar terminology a "hub" is simply
> a
> > > connection point where there are two or more other nodes connected. It
> is
> > > an understanding among a group of people that they will all connect to
> > one
> > > node.  Anyone can create a "hub" in Allstar. There is nothing special
> > about
> > > it and no special configuration. As long as you have the Internet
> > bandwidth
> > > to do it, and in this day and age most do, you can set one up. It is
> > more a
> > > matter of advertising than anything else. Running hamvoip in turbo mode
> > > without any radios a single server could easily handle 60+ connections.
> > > There are very few "hubs" that have that many connections and in a case
> > > where they might the load can be distributed over more than one server.
> > > This is the beauty of Allstar because you have the flexibility to
> create
> > > and do this. Here is Philadelphia I run at least three hubs using 10
> > local
> > > servers and several remote. There are more than 65 direct connections
> > > throughout the world. This is all done on Pi's and on a single Comcast
> > > Internet connection.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM "Joshua Nulton via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know some have said an off site hosted link node could be
> > advantageous
> > > to
> > > > those with poor to no internet and I can't wrap my head around that,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > am sure there must be numerous advantages to having a hub node. Could
> > > y'all
> > > > name as many as you can think of please?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jae
> > > > KG5EBI
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:44:49 -0400
> > > From: "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer at cox.net>
> > > To: "ARM Allstar" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
> > > Message-ID: <001501d52391$449ba9e0$cdd2fda0$@cox.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
> > works
> > > fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
> Echolink
> > > server being unavailable; is that correct?
> > >
> > > "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
> Echolink
> > > server server5.echolink.org"
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > WM4B
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:57:53 -0400
> > > From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > > To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c:
> > > Message-ID:
> > >         <CAMp6vsu0Ac4wp-KsWtBg--3CW8vYyL0G=
> > > yy2wg0gU8bRrAYrNw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > >  Yes that is correct. We had a discussion about this last week. There
> > must
> > > be three servers defined in echolink.conf but only one has to actually
> > > work. Server5 has been down for awhile now.  You can use server1, 2,
> and
> > 3
> > > and that message will go away. That is as long as all of those are
> > working.
> > > But the bottom line is that as long as one is working and you are
> getting
> > > the data from it all is fine.  You can check that in the client with  -
> > > echolink dgdump or dbget.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:47 AM "Mike Besemer via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Been receiving the error below for several days in AST Log.  Echolink
> > > works
> > > > fine, so I'm assuming that this is just an issue with a specific
> > Echolink
> > > > server being unavailable; is that correct?
> > > >
> > > > "ERROR[403] chan_echolink.c: connect() failed to connect to the
> > Echolink
> > > > server server5.echolink.org"
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > WM4B
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > ARM-allstar mailing list
> > > > ARM-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > >
> > > > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > > >
> > >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 14:05:25 -0400
> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Help programming ASL on Hamvoip to connect
>         & disconnect at particular times
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAMp6vstANaUzZ-XR4sWiNcx0W49KDs620PDqJ-1N0CfmBjij6A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Rachid,
>
>  This is very easy. You could do it in rpt.conf but If you want to do it in
> a cron (that is the way I do it here)  you need to understand cron.  There
> are many sites that detail how to use it. Here is one -
>
> https://www.adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference
>
> So that shows you how to setup times days etc.
>
> So lets say you want to connect a specific node at a certain time and day.
> You use  crontab -e  and you are in the editor. Here is an example. There
> are spaces between the parameters!  -
>
> # Connect to a node
> 30 20 * * 1 /etc/asterisk/local/connect.sh 40000
>
> Using the script below this would connect node 40000 to your node at 8:30
> PM on Monday night.  Remember the first parameter is minutes and the second
> is hour in 24 hour time. The week starts on Sunday which is 0 so the 1 is
> monday.
>
> Script the cron calls -
>
> #!/bin/bash
> asterisk -rx "rpt fun $NODE1 *73$1"
>
> $NODE1 is your first node. If it is a different node on that server replace
> with the node number. The $1 is the node parameter passed from the cron.
>
> Save this in /etc/asterisk/local/connect.sh  and make it executable - chmod
> 755 connect.sh
>
> Now at the prescribed time it will connect to the requested node.  You
> could make another script called disconnect.sh. The lines would just be -
>
> #!/bin/bash
> asterisk -rx "rpt fun $NODE1 *71$1"
>
> I show permanent connects here but it could be *3 and *1 if you did not
> want that. Usually you want permanent connects though.
>
> The flexibility of using a script would allow you to add things if you like
> for instance you could connect to multiple nodes and do other commands
> within the script.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM "Rachid Karroo via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > Good day to all
> > I need to have my node to connect and disconnect to a particular Node(s)
> > during week days.
> >
> > I understand that I will have to define it in Cron jobs.
> > Is there any documentation available that I could read and experiment
> > please ?
> >
> > Thank you
> > 73's
> >
> > Rachid
> > 3B8FP
> > Node 40248
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
> > Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> >
>
>
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