[arm-allstar] Using Allstar as a digital voter system

Sun Aug 4 11:49:38 EDT 2019

Very nice setup, Doug, i may be giving you all a shout when/if we decide to
go this route.

Mike

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 20:27 "Doug Kingston via ARM-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Puget Sound Repeater Group implemented an Allstar/RTCM voting system in
> 2018.
> Details are here: https://web.psrg.org/psrg-voting-system/
>
> Its been very successful.  We are currently running 5 receivers and have
> had up to 7 online at a time without issues.
> Voters are running on Raspberry Pi's which are just coasting.  There is no
> load issue.
>
> Check out the realtime display at:
> http://voter.psrg.org/supermon/voter.php?node=2462
>
> -Doug-, KD7DK
> PSRG President
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 4:10 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > That would be the purpose of the linked 440 repeaters, our club has used
> > the same frequency and PL for years, and a voter system would not only be
> > cool to tinker with, but alleviate the issue of trying to remember which
> PL
> > goes where. Yes, that method would be a lot cheaper (crossband repeating
> > radios and dual band antennas) but I’m all for changing the game. A voter
> > system would be a lot cooler to work on, we’re planning on building a
> > regional point-to-point network along with a link to a DMR system that
> does
> > the same thing.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 18:55 "Tom Eaton via ARM-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > If the mobile users know there are multiple receive sites they use the
> > site
> > > that they are closest to. There is a 6 meter repeater in Ohio that has
> > five
> > > received sites that works well for them over a voting system.
> > >
> > > Tom, KC4CBQ
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 6:39 PM "John Simmons via ARM-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How does the mobile user know which site's PL to use?
> > > >
> > > > -John NI0K
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Eaton via ARM-allstar" wrote:
> > > > > Just use a different pl at each rx site.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom, KC4CBQ
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 5:45 PM "Steve L via ARM-allstar"<
> > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Steve, W9SH had a "simple voter" that required no hardware.  I was
> > > > >> always tempted to give it a try.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> His site is down, and I am not where he is these days in terms of
> > > > >> development:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170306120829/http://www.xelatec.com/xipar/simplevoter
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:55 PM "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar"
> > > > >> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > > >>> Here is a link to the RTCM which as far as I know the only
> current
> > > > device
> > > > >>> that would interface the remote sites to the main repeater site.
> > You
> > > > are
> > > > >>> right the cost per site would be the RTCM plus GPS and of course
> > you
> > > > need
> > > > >>> Internet at each site. The receivers also need to be level and
> > > passband
> > > > >>> equalized (matched) for it to perform properly.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There is probably other info out there on this. I just did a
> quick
> > > > >> search.
> > > > >>> *73 Doug*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *WA3DSP*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio<
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:18 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar"<
> > > > >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> I figured I was missing something. Is the RTCM the only
> interface
> > > that
> > > > >>>> reliably supports it? At $269 apiece, that's gonna hurt the
> > wallet,
> > > on
> > > > >> top
> > > > >>>> of setting up the PtP linking to make it work standalone.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Is there a Howto? That would probably brush up my questions on
> > it..
> > > > >> lol.
> > > > >>>> Mainly, I'm assuming each receive radio needs an RTCM, as well
> as
> > > the
> > > > >>>> repeater receiver? We are upgrading our 2 meter machine with an
> > > > >> amplifier
> > > > >>>> and new (to us) hardline, once that is done we're hoping to put
> a
> > > > >> couple
> > > > >>>> receivers up to cover dead spots and improve handheld reception.
> > > We're
> > > > >> also
> > > > >>>> probably going to put up a couple Allstar-linked 440 machines at
> > > those
> > > > >>>> sites too, for local coverage.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Mike
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 13:55 "Doug Crompton via ARM-allstar"<
> > > > >>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Voting has been part of Allstar for years and is included in
> the
> > > > >> hamvoip
> > > > >>>>> release. You need hardware to do it - typically an RTCM and
> GPS.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> *73 Doug*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> *WA3DSP*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio<
> > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > > > >>> *
> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:53 PM "Mike Sullivan via ARM-allstar"<
> > > > >>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>  wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I'm curious, has anyone ever thought of, or attempted a voter
> > type
> > > > >>>> system
> > > > >>>>>> using Allstar? I.E. using Allstar as local nodes to several
> > > > >> receivers,
> > > > >>>>>> digitally analyzing signal strength, and Allstar picking the
> > > > >> strongest
> > > > >>>>>> signal to pass on to the repeater? Would be an interesting and
> > > > >>>>> inexpensive
> > > > >>>>>> concept, I would think.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Or, am I an idiot and just missed the Howto on that?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Mike
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