[arm-allstar] CTCSS during tail messages?

[Jeff Carlyle KD0QCN]

Doug,
I would be happy to share it with you, do you have any suggestions on software to do the wiring diagram?

Jeff Carlyle KD0QCN 

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> On Apr 27, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Tom Whiteside via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mike.   They are coming in on the repeater input and we do use tone
> decoding .  The repeater is a Yaesu DR1-X and we are using the internal tone
> decoding and using a URIx interface to a RP running allstar.   
> 
> I have just completed some experiments that better characterize the
> situation and I believe Doug's suggestion to use a TS-64 should fix things.
> I used my service monitor to create a 2KHz tone on the repeater input and
> you can clearly hear that 2 KHz tone for at least a full second after
> un-keying the repeater.    I varied the hang time from 100ms to 2 seconds
> and that doesn't affect things at all.
> 
> I then repeated the experiment here using our backup repeater which is a
> Kenwood TKR-750 and uses the same interface and software.  You can just hear
> a short chirp at the end so not objectionable at all - I'm sure they have a
> deliberate short lag to prevent picket fencing dropouts...   
> 
> So as Doug suggested, I think the Yaesu is taking its time dropping the tone
> valid signal...
> 
> The next step is to swap these repeaters out this weekend and route the
> audio using a TS-64 when I get it in.
> 
> I hope that is more clear than my first post...
> 
> Tom N5TW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arm-allstar [mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of "M M
> via arm-allstar"
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: Tom Whiteside via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Cc: M M <wa6ilq at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] CTCSS during tail messages?
> 
> I'm may not fully understanding the situation....  this is what I've decoded
> from the description ...
> 
> From your I'm understanding that your repeater is hearing the distant users
> on your repeater's input frequency...  correct?
> 
> And your repeater receiver is running in tone decode mode?
> 
> And you are hearing the user's transmission feeding through your repeater
> during the carrier delay time period?  (some people call this the hang-in
> timer)
> 
> If so, it sounds like to me that the tone decoder is not muting the receiver
> audio path - that the audio path is in carrier squelch mode and the COR to
> PTT switching path is in tone mode.
> 
> This may be fixable in the repeater programming or the repeater controller
> programming (if it is a external decoder). You didn't post the repeater or
> controller information, so I can't suggest anything further.
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ
> 
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