[arm-allstar] More Cellular Data Re: vpn and port forwarding

Doug Crompton wa3dsp at gmail.com
Sun Apr 22 11:01:01 EST 2018


Jon,

 I guess it is possible that areas have things setup differently on the
Sprint network but I would kind of doubt it.

Make sure when you enter the port forward(s) in the 6100 that once it is
submitted it actually shows what you entered. It can change the IP address
on you and you may not notice. You can do multiple port forwards but only
to one IP address.  The other option is to do no port forwarding and set
the DMZ to the IP address of the Pi.

Let me know how you make out.


*73 Doug*

*WA3DSP*

*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*


On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 8:47 AM, "K1IMD via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Very Interesting Doug...
>
> I have tried SSH and forwarding to just one IP (my web power switch) and
> it never made it.
>
> Understand that the 6100D is old and dumb but the simplicity at a not
> easily accessible site having wired Ethernet connection removes one more
> possible "mystery" with WiFi in the mix.
>
> Fortunately, I don't need a static public IP...
>
> I am on the eastern end of Long Island in NY... I wonder if Sprint's
> data networks are configured differently in other parts of the country?
>
> Thank you for you time testing your setup... I will try some more
> experiments with mine.
>
> 73
> Jon
> K1IMD
>
> On 4/22/2018 01:26, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" wrote:
> > The 6100D has at times been labeled the worst router in the world! I
> >
> > *t has ample features but many do not work. Just Google netgear 6100D and
> > you will see all the problems!*
> >
> >
> > *That being said the test I made this evening was using the 6100D on
> Sprint
> > LTE with Allstar and it definitely worked with incoming IAX and SSH. It
> > also works fine for echolink as it has been used for that for quite some
> > time. I have no way to check IRLP but since these both work I would
> expect
> > it would also.*
> >
> >
> > *The well known problem with the 6100D is you can't port forward more
> than
> > one IP address due to a bug in the router. This has nothing to do with
> > Sprint but rather a brain dead router.  If you completely take out one
> > device from the port forwarding you can add another but only one device
> > (IP) at a time. If you try to add another IP it just reverts back to the
> > first IP. This is what I did tonight to test. I took Echolink port
> forwards
> > completely out and added Allstars., tested, then deleted Allstar and put
> > Echolink back in.*
> >
> >
> > *The 6100D is an old router and the latest Sprint replacements do not
> have
> > wired Ethernet only wireless to your devices. This is actually not bad as
> > the devices are right there and it is secure. It also offers a level of
> > protection from transients caused by power surges and lightning as there
> is
> > no wired connection to other devices. Important at repeater sites.*
> >
> >
> > *The Franklin R910 and the ZTE Warp are two 4G/LTE modem/routers that
> > Sprint offers to buy or rent.*
> >
> > *BTW if you think you need a static public IP which I doubt Sprint
> > apparently offerers then at reasonable rates.*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> *
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 1:06 AM, "K1IMD via arm-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I have (3) Netgear6100D's on Sprint's LTE network.  My experiments with
> >> port forwarding have failed every time on all 3 devices.  For instance
> >> dyndns reports the IP of the device but I have been unable to ping it or
> >> forward ports.  My intention was to run an IP switch on the site... I
> >> tested it and it did report the the portal site but would not control
> >> the switch.  There is a 3G mode on the device but when I try to force it
> >> to 3G mode it does not connect to the network servers.  I believe the 3G
> >> network does provide a routable public IP but that all LTE networks,
> >> although they work well, in some cases you don't get a publicly routable
> >> public IP.  IRLP & Echolin require publicly routable IPs to work.  The
> >> discussion on other reflectors have mentioned that cannot get LTE
> >> networks to work without a VPN or Proxy Server.
> >>
> >> I have a couple DMR sites that use them and work fine and keep one on
> >> hand for a backup if needed for the repeaters I have at my home...
> >> although we found that the get stupid every now an again so we have a
> >> timer that cycles the power on the unit every 24 hours at about 3AM.
> >>
> >> They are not always available for purchase but mine are with FreedomPop
> >> a reseller of Sprint's network.  They cost between $59 and $99 when you
> >> can get them from FreedomPop and you get 500MB of data a month free...
> >> you get 10 friends to add to your friends list and you get 50MB per
> >> month for each friend up to another 500MB... so you get 1GB per month
> >> free that way.  The New England DMR network burns between 600-800MB per
> >> month...  Therefore no recurring monthly cost.
> >>
> >> Perhaps other parts of the country the networks are differently
> configured.
> >>
> >> YMMV... perhaps greatly!
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Jon
> >> K1IMD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/21/2018 13:35, "Jed Barton via arm-allstar" wrote:
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> OK, so we are working on setting up an allstarnode on my repeater
> >>> system.  We're putting it right at the site hooked up to my scom 7330.
> >>> So the only way we can get internet at the site is through cellular.
> >>> Fortunately we have a solid connection up there with Verizon.  The big
> >>> issue is port forwarding.  We obviously need to do that.  Anyone else
> >>> on here have a similar issue?  I know that the ports need to see a
> >>> public IP and often with cellular that changes.
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jed.n1jbc
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