[arm-allstar] Trouble connecting to nodes at start up

James Hause hausejd at gmail.com
Sun Nov 19 13:24:49 EST 2017 

This explains a lot.  Thank you  for all the help.
I am a bit new to Allstar,  Just got my hardware set up going a few weeks
ago.
Been a little bit of a learning curve, but I enjoy learning new things.

73 Jim
KF5LBT

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:12 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:

> Jim,
>
>  Well as I said in my last message this will not work under the current
> file lookup system if you do not use hard routing at BOTH ends so that you
> both know about each other at boot.
>
> The reason it works when you reboot after a while is because the other end
> now knows about you and the connection can take place. Under the current
> file lookup method it can take up to 10-15 minutes to establish a
> connection.  You can test this. Take your node down for about 15 minutes so
> you node clears the database. Then when you come up see how long it takes
> for you to manually connect to that node using *3. If you cannot connect
> manually the startup_macro will not work until you can.
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, "James Hause via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > Well did find out that if I did a restart of the Asterisk server, it did
> > connect, but if I have to do a restart of the server to get this to work
> > it kind of defeats the whole purpose, ie, it's not automatically
> connecting
> > at boot up.
> > Will try your suggestion next.
> > Sure appreciate your help !!!
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:19 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
> > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > >  Try this -
> > >
> > > startup_macro=*52
> > >
> > >
> > > In the macro stanza right after the function stanza and after the 1=
> > line
> > > that is already in there add this line -
> > >
> > > 2=*7343773#
> > >
> > > Restart Asterisk.
> > >
> > > Also I am assuming that you can connect to this node manually?
> > >
> > > Another issue here is that a startup macro only works if both you and
> the
> > > other node are aware of each other. In the normal file lookup method in
> > > Allstar this can take up to 10-15 minutes.
> > >
> > >
> > > *73 Doug*
> > >
> > > *WA3DSP*
> > >
> > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:50 AM, "James Hause via arm-allstar" <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Doug,
> > > > Well I restored back the rpt.conf file so it was back to what is was
> > > before
> > > > I did any changes.
> > > > Down under misc settings for my node there was already a line:
> > > >
> > > > ;startup_macro = *7  (note there is a space before and after the =)
> > > > I removed the : at the beginning of the line and changed it to:
> > > > startup_macro = *7343773
> > > >
> > > > Rebooted Pi.  Still did not connect.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:37 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
> > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Jim,
> > > > >
> > > > > Function definitions belong in the [functions] stanza further down
> in
> > > the
> > > > > file not in the node definition stanza.  In your case
> > [functions46738]
> > > So
> > > > > move
> > > > >
> > > > > 951=ilink,11 ; Permanent link disconnect
> > > > > 952=ilink,12 ; Permanent link receive
> > > > > 953=ilink,13 ; Permanent link transceive
> > > > >
> > > > > down into that functions stanza. The startup_macro line is OK
> where
> > it
> > > > is.
> > > > > That should be in the node definition stanza for the connection
> node.
> > > > Also
> > > > > you be aware that these three definition already exist there with
> > > > different
> > > > > function codes?
> > > > >
> > > > > 71=ilink,11
> > > > > 72=ilink,12
> > > > > 73=ilink,13
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to comment them and use your new ones but also remember
> > unless
> > > > you
> > > > > are trying to obfuscate these functions this is not a good idea if
> > > others
> > > > > are going to use your node. It would be very confusing.
> > > > >
> > > > > When changing something like this you should manually execute the
> > > command
> > > > > to see if it works.
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to be careful where you change things in the config files
> as
> > > you
> > > > > could quickly screw up your system. I highly recommend you make a
> > > backup
> > > > > copy of any file before you modify.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > >
> > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > >
> > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/
> hamradio
> > >*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 9:56 AM, "James Hause via arm-allstar" <
> > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Doug,
> > > > > > Sorry for the confusion.  I am registered.  And I did do the
> checks
> > > you
> > > > > > suggested for Chris, and all seems good when I check.
> > > > > > I do have the rpt_extnodes file, and it does have the node in it
> > > that I
> > > > > > want to connect to, but it looks like the way I am trying to set
> up
> > > > > > start_up macro isn't correct, or not in the correct place in the
> > > > rpt.conf
> > > > > > file.  Below I pasted section of the rpt.conf.   I have started
> the
> > > > > > Supermon program on my PC, and when I
> > > > > > reboot my Pi, I can see a very fast flash on the line where is
> > shows
> > > > > > connected to, stating I believe connecting to, the node I have in
> > my
> > > > > start
> > > > > > up macro, but then status back to no connections.
> > > > > > Section of my rpt.conf:
> > > > > > ; The first node definition
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [46738] ; Change this to your assigned node number
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; Channel Driver settings
> > > > > > ; Define a channel driver to use and which
> > > > > > ; interface within that channel driver
> > > > > > ; To define a radioless node use the
> > > > > > ; psuedo channel driver - rxchannel=dahdi/pseudo
> > > > > > ;rxchannel=Radio/usb46738
> > > > > > ; Example usbradio channel driver
> > > > > > rxchannel=SimpleUSB/usb
> > > > > > ; Example simpleusb channel driver
> > > > > > ;rxchannel=dahdi/pseudo
> > > > > >                                 ; Example pseudo channel driver
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; Repeater/Simplex node settings
> > > > > > ; duplex=0 - Half duplex with no telemetry
> > > > > > ; tones or hang time. Special Case: Full
> > > > > > ; duplex if linktolink is set to yes.
> > > > > > ; This mode is preferred when interfacing
> > > > > > ; with an external multiport repeater controller.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; duplex=1 - Half duplex with telemetry tones
> > > > > > ; and hang time. Does not repeat audio.
> > > > > > ; This mode is preferred when interfacing a
> > > > > > ; simplex node.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; duplex=2 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
> > > > > > ; and hang time. This mode is preferred when
> > > > > > ; interfacing a repeater.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; duplex=3 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
> > > > > > ; and hang time, but no repeated audio.
> > > > > > ; duplex=4 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
> > > > > > ; and hang time. Repeated audio only when the
> > > > > > ; autopatch is down.
> > > > > > duplex=1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; Context mapping
> > > > > >
> > > > > > controlstates=controlstates
> > > > > > ; Defines groups of control operator commands
> > > > > > ; to be executed all at once. Can be combined
> > > > > > ; with macros to allow changes to a nodes
> > > > > > ; operating mode to be made quickly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > scheduler=schedule46738
> > > > > > ; Defines macros to be executed at a specific
> > > > > > ; time and date. Uses a cron-like syntax
> > > > > >
> > > > > > morse=morse46738
> > > > > > ; Contains definitions for morse code messages.
> > > > > > ; One common morse stanza is shared across
> > > > > > ; multiple nodes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > macro=macro46738
> > > > > > ; Defines DTMF macro sequences
> > > > > >
> > > > > > functions=functions46738
> > > > > > 951=ilink,11 ; Permanent link disconnect
> > > > > > 952=ilink,12 ; Permanent link receive
> > > > > > 953=ilink,13 ; Permanent link transceive
> > > > > > ; Defines DTMF function digit sequences. A
> > > > > > ; function stanza has a reference to it defined
> > > > > > ; inside a node stanza. Multiple function stanzas
> > > > > > ; may be defined and used to provide different
> > > > > > ; function lists for different sources
> > > > > > ; (radio.phone, and link)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > phone_functions=functions46738
> > > > > > link_functions=functions46738
> > > > > >
> > > > > > telemetry=telemetry
> > > > > > ; Contains definitions for telemetry tones
> > > > > > ; (courtesy tones, roger beeps, etc). A telemetry
> > > > > > ; stanza has a reference to it defined inside
> > > > > > ; a node stanza.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > macro=macro
> > > > > > startup_macro=*95343773 ; macro to run at startup (optional)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wait_times=wait-times46738
> > > > > > ; Contains time delays used to time audio
> > > > > > ; telemetry events
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; Echolink settings
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:38 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
> <
> > > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Well I don't think your problem is the same as Chris. He was
> > > > > registered
> > > > > > > but not receiving node updates. I take it you applied for a
> node
> > > > number
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > have heard nothing back? That is another issue. How long has it
> > > been
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > you applied?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/
> > > hamradio
> > > > >*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 6:41 AM, "James Hause via arm-allstar"
> <
> > > > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Doug,
> > > > > > > >    Hey I received the email trail you have with Chris.  I
> seem
> > to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > same problem, and saw you were going to private email Chris
> > back.
> > > > > > > > I applied t get registered on ARM-Allstar, and haven't got my
> > > email
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > yet with approval,
> > > > > > > > Sure would like to know what the solution is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:21 PM, "Doug Crompton via
> > arm-allstar"
> > > <
> > > > > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Yes, I will email you privately about this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <
> http://www.crompton.com/
> > > > > hamradio
> > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Chris Souleles <
> > > > > > csouleles at prodigy.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Did the suggested checks and here are the results.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Node is registered.  Checked several times and it always
> > > comes
> > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > registered.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When it won't connect I get "no such file or directory"
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > > > execute
> > > > > > > > > the grep
> > > > > > > > > > 40000 /tmp/rpt_extnodes command with any node number
> > inserted
> > > > > > > replacing
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > 40000.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When it will connect I get a routing response for any
> node
> > > > > number I
> > > > > > > > > insert
> > > > > > > > > > when I execute the command.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So it appears when it won't connect it doesn't have the
> > > > > > > > /tmp/rpt_extnodes
> > > > > > > > > > file and when it does connect it has it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there something I can do to make sure it always has
> the
> > > > > > > > > /tmp/rpt_extnodes
> > > > > > > > > > file after start up?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Chris - W6CS - 73.
> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > *From:* Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *To:* ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> > > > > > > > > > *Cc:* Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:21 AM
> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [arm-allstar] Trouble connecting to nodes
> at
> > > > start
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >   You checked quite a few things and that is good but
> there
> > > > are a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > things to check. Make sure you have you are registered.
> You
> > > can
> > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > check_reg.sh
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > at the Linux prompt.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then make sure you have the /tmp/rpt_extnodes file and
> that
> > > it
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > info
> > > > > > > > > > for the node you want to connect to. You can type
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > grep 40000 /tmp/rpt_extnodes
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > at the linux prompt, where 40000 is replaced with the
> node
> > > > number
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > > to check. This will return the routing info for that node
> > or
> > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > does not exisit.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also how the system responds when you do a connect tells
> > you
> > > a
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > what is going on. If you just get a beep or nothing in
> > > response
> > > > > to
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > connect it means you have no info for that node and
> > probably
> > > no
> > > > > > > > > rpt_exnodes
> > > > > > > > > > file. If you get a failure to connect it could mean many
> > > things
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > could be that the other end does not have node
> information
> > > for
> > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would also say try and run your node wired if you can
> to
> > > see
> > > > if
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > a difference.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > We are about to roll out the DNS node lookup code which
> > > should
> > > > > > > > eliminate
> > > > > > > > > > many of these problems but until then the rpt_extnodes
> file
> > > > must
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > and the node you want to connect to must be listed in it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let us know what you find out.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *73 Doug*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *WA3DSP*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <
> > http://www.crompton.com/
> > > > > > hamradio
> > > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 10:39 AM, "Chris Souleles via
> > > > > arm-allstar"
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I've been having trouble getting my node to connect to
> > > other
> > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > > start up. I wait 10 or fifteen minutes after start up
> and
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > response when I try to connect to another node.  I have
> > to
> > > > halt
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > turn
> > > > > > > > > > > power on and off a few times to get it to work.  Once
> it
> > > > > connects
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > node, then after that everything is normal and I can
> > > connect
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > disconnect
> > > > > > > > > > > with no problem.
> > > > > > > > > > > It properly reports the IP address. Asterisk shows the
> > > proper
> > > > > > DTMF
> > > > > > > > > > > commands. Wireless status indicates the proper wireless
> > > > network
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > correct IP address. The echo command will echo my
> voice.
> > > COS
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > PTT
> > > > > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > > > > My cable modem and wireless network work for everything
> > > else.
> > > > > > > > > > > My configuration is RPI 3, URIx, BF888, simplex node,
> > and I
> > > > > > > > downloaded
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > hamvoip 1.5 a couple weeks ago so it is pretty current.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > > connected
> > > > > > > > > > > wireless.  Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > > > > Chris - W6CS - 73
> > > > > > > > > > > Simple USB parameters:Card is:        0Name is:
> > > usbRx
> > > > > > Level:
> > > > > > > > > > >  500Rx no-delay:    0Rx audio-delay:  5Tx A Level:
> > > > 300Tx B
> > > > > > > > Level:
> > > > > > > > > > >  0preemphasis:    nodeemphasis:      noplfilter:
> > > > > > yesrxboost:
> > > > > > > > > > >    yesPTT:            Active LOWPTT status:
> > > > Un-KeyedCTCSS
> > > > > > > > (input):
> > > > > > > > > > >  IgnoredCOS (input):    CM108/CM119 Active HIGHCOS
> > (test):
> > > > > > > > > > > Un-KeyedCOS (composite): Un-Keyed
> > > > > > > > > > > Web error log (from Supermon) showed the following.  I
> > > don't
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > relevant.AH00558: httpd: Could not reliably determine
> the
> > > > > > server's
> > > > > > > > > fully
> > > > > > > > > > > qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.2. Set the
> > > 'ServerName'
> > > > > > > > directive
> > > > > > > > > > > globally to suppress this message[Fri Nov 17
> > > 20:17:00.884764
> > > > > > 2017]
> > > > > > > > > > > [lbmethod_heartbeat:notice] [pid 345] AH02282: No
> slotmem
> > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > mod_heartmonitor[Fri Nov 17 20:17:01.164689 2017]
> > > > > > > > [mpm_prefork:notice]
> > > > > > > > > > [pid
> > > > > > > > > > > 345] AH00163: Apache/2.4.18 (Unix) PHP/7.0.4 configured
> > --
> > > > > > resuming
> > > > > > > > > > normal
> > > > > > > > > > > operations[Fri Nov 17 20:17:01.164882 2017]
> [core:notice]
> > > > [pid
> > > > > > 345]
> > > > > > > > > > > AH00094: Command line: '/usr/bin/httpd -D FOREGROUND'
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