[arm-allstar] RPI3 halt button
Irvin Fontanes
irvinpr at gmail.com
Fri Nov 17 13:19:03 EST 2017
Chris,
You are most likely experiencing electromagnetic compatibility issues in
your setup. My initial impression is:
1. The original switch wires you were using were resonant at a specific
frequency or frequencies from a nearby radiated emission(s) source. This
source's electric field energy was probably being coupled in to that wire;
hence, causing faults. The wire was acting like an antenna picking up
energy. By shortening the wire(s), the resonant frequency changed and less
energy is being coupled in to that path.
OR
2. Shortening the wires had no effect and by rerouting the wires you got
further away from the source of emi; hence, since the electric field
intensity is lower at the wire's boundary, less energy is being coupled on
to the wire(s). This energy is probably not enough to cause faults.
How long was/were the wire(s)?
OR
3. The long wire, along with the switch, was resonant and acting as a
radiating antenna for conducted emissions signal or signals present at the
gpio pins creating a new non intentional source of radiated emissions
causing emi to something else.
You should do more testing 😁
Regards,
Irvin
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1. Re: AllStar Echolink Audio (Doug Crompton)
2. Software Update (Doug Crompton)
3. Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
(Doug Crompton)
4. Re: Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
(Tom Hayward)
5. Re: Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
(Doug Crompton)
6. Re: Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
(Fred Hillhouse)
7. Re: Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
(Doug Crompton)
8. Re: RPI3 Halt Button (Chris Souleles)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:51:24 -0500
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] AllStar Echolink Audio
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Sorry I just reread your message and I missed the fact that this was
Echolink audio. Assuming your primary levels are set correctly as stated in
my last message you should not have to change the echolink levels by that
much. Something is wrong if you do. The default values have worked for me
for years. Do NOT change simpleusb audio levels to change echolink levels.
You first have to setup your primary Allstar levels in the
simpleusb-tune-menu. Then if you want to fudge the echolink levels you can
do this in rpt.conf but you should not have to change these by much. If you
find you do then the problem is at the other end - someones echolink level
TO you and not your issue.
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 9:19 PM, "David via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> Wondering if I am missing something. I tried adjusting the audio in USB
> simple tune and in rpt.config. I can not seem to get the transmit audio to
> decrease. I need to decrease it by at least -18db. Turn it down in the app
> by -12db and is still way too high.
> Thanks David KG5RDF
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:41:54 -0500
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: [arm-allstar] Software Update
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Dave has put out an update to correct a bug that appeared in the last
update regarding simpleusb full duplex. The problem would not have shown up
in radio connected half duplex nodes but caused a random clicking noise in
true full duplex connections like "radioless" nodes where you were always
listening to the output. After the update the data light (green on the URI)
will show a constant fast rate which is normal.
Also the rx_timeout variable in rpt.conf now has an allowed =0 setting
which disables the timer. This should only be used when absolutely
necessary as it disables the ability to time out nodes that hang. Normally
this timer is set to about 3-4 minutes or 180000 to 240000 which would
limit the amount of time a node could hang before COS was disabled.
Update using the ADMIN menu item 1. Remember that hamvoip updates are
rolling updates. That is if you have not updated in awhile when you do
update you will get this update and all since the last time you updated.
*73 Doug*
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:08:33 -0500
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
installation
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We have deployed another value add to the hamvoip code, the ability to
program the older Motorola radios like the Maxtrac , GM300 etc. on your Pi
allstar server. This makes available the ability for the average person to
program these radios without having to find someone that has an old
computer and the software to do it. It also is a consistent platform so if
it works on one Pi it will work on all. No more hassling with timings, etc.
Complete details are in the link to the howto posted on the hamvoip.org web
page in the howto/software section. Here is the direct link -
https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/motorola_programming/
If you use the hardware suggested and set it up according to the directions
you should be able to program your Motorola radio that previously required
an old DOS computer..
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:46:15 -0800
From: Tom Hayward <tom at tomh.us>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
installation
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On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:08 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> We have deployed another value add to the hamvoip code, the ability to
> program the older Motorola radios like the Maxtrac , GM300 etc. on your Pi
> allstar server. This makes available the ability for the average person to
> program these radios without having to find someone that has an old
> computer and the software to do it. It also is a consistent platform so if
> it works on one Pi it will work on all. No more hassling with timings,
etc.
> Complete details are in the link to the howto posted on the hamvoip.org
> web
> page in the howto/software section. Here is the direct link -
>
> https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/motorola_programming/
>
> If you use the hardware suggested and set it up according to the
directions
> you should be able to program your Motorola radio that previously required
> an old DOS computer..
>
I feel like I'm missing something here. The instructions stop at launching
DOSBox. Isn't DOSBox just an OS emulator? How does the radio actually get
programmed?
Tom KD7LXL
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:17:49 -0500
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
installation
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Tom,
The article does not hold your hand so to speak on how to actually program
the radio. The Motorola programs are there and it is up to the user to run
them and program the radio. When dosbox is run the directory with the
software comes up in Norton Commander.
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:46 AM, "Tom Hayward via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:08 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar" <
> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>
> > We have deployed another value add to the hamvoip code, the ability to
> > program the older Motorola radios like the Maxtrac , GM300 etc. on your
> Pi
> > allstar server. This makes available the ability for the average person
> to
> > program these radios without having to find someone that has an old
> > computer and the software to do it. It also is a consistent platform so
> if
> > it works on one Pi it will work on all. No more hassling with timings,
> etc.
> > Complete details are in the link to the howto posted on the hamvoip.org
> > web
> > page in the howto/software section. Here is the direct link -
> >
> > https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/motorola_programming/
> >
> > If you use the hardware suggested and set it up according to the
> directions
> > you should be able to program your Motorola radio that previously
> required
> > an old DOS computer..
> >
>
> I feel like I'm missing something here. The instructions stop at launching
> DOSBox. Isn't DOSBox just an OS emulator? How does the radio actually get
> programmed?
>
> Tom KD7LXL
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:10:46 -0500
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse at comcast.net>
To: "'ARM Allstar'" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
installation
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If Amazon is your drug of choice:
https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Cable-Motorola-Maxtrac-CDM1250/dp/B01M74S
RDZ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1510928560&sr=8-5&keywords=Programming+Cable+For+
Motorola+Radius+Maxtrac+GM300+M1225+CDM1250+CM200+CM300&dpID=41nhsqxfCBL&pre
ST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
-----Original Message-----
From: arm-allstar [mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of
"Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:09 AM
To: ARM Allstar
Cc: Doug Crompton
Subject: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip installation
We have deployed another value add to the hamvoip code, the ability to
program the older Motorola radios like the Maxtrac , GM300 etc. on your Pi
allstar server. This makes available the ability for the average person to
program these radios without having to find someone that has an old computer
and the software to do it. It also is a consistent platform so if it works
on one Pi it will work on all. No more hassling with timings, etc.
Complete details are in the link to the howto posted on the hamvoip.org web
page in the howto/software section. Here is the direct link -
https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/motorola_programming/
If you use the hardware suggested and set it up according to the directions
you should be able to program your Motorola radio that previously required
an old DOS computer..
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:43:36 -0500
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
installation
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Apparently the link in that previous message was in error. Here is a link I
think will work and I will add it to the web page. It is a good price. -
https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Cable-Motorola-
Maxtrac-CDM1250/dp/B01M74SRDZ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=
1510928560&sr=8-5&keywords=Programming+Cable+For+
Motorola+Radius+Maxtrac+GM300+M1225+CDM1250+CM200+CM300&
dpID=41nhsqxfCBL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
When you post a link anything after the '?' can be eliminated.
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:10 AM, "Fred Hillhouse via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> If Amazon is your drug of choice:
> https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Cable-Motorola-
> Maxtrac-CDM1250/dp/B01M74S
> RDZ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1510928560&sr=8-5&keywords=
> Programming+Cable+For+
> Motorola+Radius+Maxtrac+GM300+M1225+CDM1250+CM200+CM300&
> dpID=41nhsqxfCBL&pre
> ST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arm-allstar [mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of
> "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 1:09 AM
> To: ARM Allstar
> Cc: Doug Crompton
> Subject: [arm-allstar] Programming Motorola Radios on a hamvoip
> installation
>
> We have deployed another value add to the hamvoip code, the ability to
> program the older Motorola radios like the Maxtrac , GM300 etc. on your Pi
> allstar server. This makes available the ability for the average person to
> program these radios without having to find someone that has an old
> computer
> and the software to do it. It also is a consistent platform so if it works
> on one Pi it will work on all. No more hassling with timings, etc.
> Complete details are in the link to the howto posted on the hamvoip.org
> web
> page in the howto/software section. Here is the direct link -
>
> https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/motorola_programming/
>
> If you use the hardware suggested and set it up according to the
directions
> you should be able to program your Motorola radio that previously required
> an old DOS computer..
>
>
> *73 Doug*
>
> *WA3DSP*
>
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:02:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>
To: "doug at crompton.com" <doug at crompton.com>, ARM Allstar
<arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] RPI3 Halt Button
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Doug - On my first node I changed wire routing of power supply wires (I'm
using DC/DC down converters to power the RPI3 and BF888 so I can run the
node portable off 12V) and I shortened the wires from the RPI3 GPIO to the
halt button.? Now the halt button works reliably and does not cause start
issues.? So all I can think is I was picking up noise and changing the wire
routing minimized it.? Thanks for the help.
Chris - W6CS - 73
From: Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>
To: "doug at crompton.com" <doug at crompton.com>; ARM Allstar <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] RPI3 Halt Button
Doug
Update - I installed the halt button on my second node and it works
properly so I believe I have a hardware/noise issue on the first node.? I
will update this thread when I figure it out.? Thanks for the help.??
Chris - W6CS - 73.??
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>; ARM Allstar <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] RPI3 Halt Button
Chris,
?That is a distinct possibility. How long is your wire. It should be short
like shown in the example and mounted at the case. If it were longer you
might need to bypass it with a .1 or .01 uf cap. Also check pin 11. It
should be high - approx. 3V when open. You can also run? 'gpio readall' at
the Linux prompt. This shows the state of all pin. It should be listed as
in and a 1 or hih when the switch is not closed.
Doug
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>
wrote:
Yep checked both switches I used and they are normally open and they close
when pressed. When open they are a complete open, no resistance. I even
disconnected the switch and left the wire on pin 11 and still the same
result.? Remove the wire and it works as it did before using PUTTY for
shutdown.? Almost seems like there is some interference being picked up on
the wire.?
I'm pretty good on the hardware side of things but this has me baffled.? I
checked voltage to the RPI3 and it is 5.01 volts.??
I'm just finishing up another node so I will try it on that one and see if
I get any different result.??
Thenks, Chris - W6CS - 73
From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
To: Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>
Cc: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] RPI3 Halt Button
Chris,
? Are you sure that switch is not normally closed? Connecting an open
switch to those pins would not do anything abnormal. Check it with an ohm
meter. It does work.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/ hamradio
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Chris Souleles <csouleles at prodigy.net>
wrote:
I'm getting erratic behavior from the halt button I installed on my RPI3.?
I installed a momentary button between GPIO pins 9 and 11 and I enabled
shutdown monitor per the instructions from Doug.?
Occasionally it works but most often it causes a problem on start up where
the RPI won't start (it gets about half way through announcing the IP
address and then stops and I have to cycle power to try and get it to do
anything).? I'm using the push on connectors on the GPIO, I've tried two
different switches and sets of wires to the GPIO and backed out and
installed the enable shutdown monitor a couple times with the same result
I've removed the wire from pin 11 and now it is back to normal operation
but I need to go into PUTTY to perform shutdown.
Anyone else experience this difficulty and any advice?
Thanks,? Chris - W6CS - 73.??
From: Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Cc: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] RPI3 Halt Button
Chris,
? I assume you are referring to the howto at the hamvoip.org web page. It
shows where to connect the switch on the Pi 2/3. The script for doing this
is included in the hamvoip release and is turned on by the flag in the
/usr/local/etc/allstar.env file. Here is how to do that.
- Enter the bash shell from the menu selection 9
Edit the file. Type -
nano /usr/local/etc/allstar.env
Scroll down to SHUTDOWN_MONITOR
Change "disabled" to "enabled"
Use Control x? to save the file - answer Y and then return.
reboot the system.
The bit should now work to halt the system. Remember you have to hold the
bit closed for greater than 5 seconds then release for it to work.
*73 Doug*
*WA3DSP*
*http://www.crompton.com/ hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/ hamradio>*
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 11:42 AM, "Chris Souleles via arm-allstar" <
arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> Excuse if this is a duplicate - I may have previously posted it to the
> wrong list.
> I'm new to Allstar and I don't know linux.? I want to add a halt button to
> my RPI3 node.? I see directions on how to add the button which is straight
> forward and then it says to go to /usr/local/etc/allstar.env and set
> SHUTDOWN_MONITOR="enabled.? My question is how do I
> find /usr/local/etc/allstar.env to make that mod.
> Thanks, Chris - W6CS,? 73
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