[arm-allstar] No Rx On Echolink.

Steve sgrob at mtco.com
Mon Jun 26 12:42:37 EST 2017


Stan,
 If I did this correctly the voltages are as follows:
Node radio connected to URI with no RF - 2.6V
Node radio connected to URI with RF - 2.6V
Node radio disconnected from URI with no RF - 0V
Node radio disconnected from URI with RF - 0V

73
Steve
KD9AER

> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Stanley Stanukinos <ka5iid at swbell.net> wrote:
> 
> Steve, measure the voltage between ground and your COS lead both connected to the URI and disconnected from the URI. Do this when you have no RF input to your EchoLink radio and then key your HT as you had been doing to get RF into the radio. This will let us know the voltage levels on the COS line. You may need a buffer, pull up resister or ?  
> 
> Stan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Steve via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I agree - get the radio link working as that is where the problem lies.
>> Goal is to make an Echolink node that sits in our club repeater room and transmits at low power for members to use while traveling.
>> 
>> I see where the confusion is I think. I didn’t do a good job describing my problem. Allow me to try again.
>> 
>> I have the node radio and my ht both tuned to the same simplex frequency. 
>> I have no problem connecting to the node with my cell phone echolink app.
>> When I key the cell phone app and speak, I can hear my voice clearly on the ht speaker.
>> So far, so good.
>> When I key the ht and speak, I hear nothing on the cell phone app. This is the problem.
>> 
>> I choose item 2 on simpleusb-tune-menu and see the following:
>> Please enter your selection now: 2
>> RX VOICE DISPLAY:                                                            
>>                                v -- 3KHz        v -- 5KHz
>> When I key the ht and speak, nothing changes on the RX level display and I still don’t hear anything on the cell phone app.
>> I change the RX level to 999 and key the ht again but still don’t see anything change on the RX level display and of course nothing heard on the cell phone app.
>> 
>> The above was all done with the volume turned all the way down on the node radio. If I turn the volume up on the node radio, I can hear everything (through the node radio speaker) when I key the ht and speak. But do not hear anything through the cell phone app.
>> 
>> When I key the ht, COS status does not change - it remains in CLEAR status whether the ht is keyed or not. So, I assume this means I need to change COSFROM from usbinvert to USB. But if I change COSFROM to USB then I get the hash on the cell phone and COS status is keyed whether the ht is keyed or not. 
>> 
>> 73
>> Steve
>> KD9AER
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Doug Crompton via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, as I said lets get the radio link working first. Then deal with
>>> echolink.
>>> 
>>> When we refer to "radio keyed" we mean the radio talking TO your node
>>> radio. So if you key a handheld  or whatever on the frequency and PL of
>>> your node radio the COSFROM should show keyed. With the handheld unkeyed it
>>> should show clear. If it is not doing this or doing the opposite then
>>> switch from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.
>>> 
>>> When this is set correctly you should hear courtesy tone on unkey. The next
>>> thing you need to do, again in simpleusb-tune-menu, is set your levels.
>>> Item 2 on the menu is RX level. This is the level for your NODE radios rx.
>>> In other words what it hears FROM your handheld transmitting TO the node
>>> radio.The level shows on the screen as a bar graph and should kick up to
>>> 5-6khz on peaks. If not hit 'return' change the level and recheck. Be sure
>>> to save with the 'w' command before exiting if you change something.
>>> 
>>> If this is not set correctly DTMF will either not work or will be erratic.
>>> 
>>> You can check DTMF in the Asterisk client from the main menu. As you key
>>> and push the keys the ones selected should show on the screen. Key in 0-9*#
>>> and make sure they all decode.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure what your ultimate goal is here? Do you just want to run
>>> Echolink or are you using Allstar? Echolink requires port forwarding. There
>>> is an Echolink howto on the hamvoip.org web page.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *73 Doug*
>>> 
>>> *WA3DSP*
>>> 
>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What node radio are you using? What FOB?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:44 AM, "Steve via arm-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Since I was subscribed to daily digest and did not get Doug's reply to my
>>>> post directly, I could not reply. I have since unsubscribed to daily digest
>>>> as requested so should receive future replies to my posts directly. I have
>>>> attached Doug’s reply at the bottom for reference.
>>>> 
>>>> Doug,
>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert and the node radio not
>>>> keyed:
>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>  COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>> CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usbinvert with node radio keyed:
>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>  COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>> CLEAR    |  CLEAR  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | KEYED
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my COS View with COSFROM set to usb and the node radio not keyed:
>>>> REALTIME RX TELEMETRY DISPLAY:
>>>>  COS     |   COS   |  COS   |  CTCSS  |   CTCSS    |  PTT
>>>> (composite) | (input) | (test) | (input) | (override) |
>>>> KEYED    |  KEYED  | CLEAR  | IGNORE  |   CLEAR    | CLEAR
>>>> 
>>>> At this point I hear continuous hash on the Echolink cell phone app and
>>>> the transmit key is not available so can’t show you what the COS view with
>>>> COSFROM set to usb. Hearing the same hash on the node radio too if I turn
>>>> the volume up a bit.
>>>> 
>>>> With the COSFROM set to usbinvert I do hear the courtesy tone when
>>>> un-keying.
>>>> Had to set Transmit level A and B to 999 to get it to sound right.
>>>> It does play the time on the hour.
>>>> Don’t know how to do DTMF yet.
>>>> I get the same results if the cell phone is on my home network or using
>>>> the cellular network.
>>>> 
>>>> Here are current parameter values:
>>>> Active simpleusb stanza: [usb]
>>>> USB device String:       1-1.2:1.0
>>>> 
>>>> Card is:         0
>>>> Name is:         usb
>>>> Rx Level:        500
>>>> Rx no-delay:     0
>>>> Rx audio-delay:  1
>>>> Tx A Level:      999
>>>> Tx B Level:      999
>>>> preemphasis:     yes
>>>> deemphasis:      no
>>>> plfilter:        yes
>>>> rxboost:         yes
>>>> 
>>>> PTT:             Active LOW
>>>> PTT status:      Un-Keyed
>>>> 
>>>> CTCSS (input):   Ignored
>>>> COS (input):     CM108/CM119 Active LOW
>>>> COS (test):      Un-Keyed
>>>> COS (composite): Un-Keyed
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> Steve
>>>> KD9AER
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:42:40 -0400
>>>> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com <mailto:wa3dsp at gmail.com>>
>>>> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] No RX on Echolink.
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>>>> 
>>>> Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> First of all you need to have your radio setup correctly independent of
>>>> Echolink. If you go into the simple-usb-tune-menu there is a 'v' option
>>>> which allows you view the COS and PTT signals. When you key the radio
>>>> talking to your node radio you should see a key indication in cos input.
>>>> When you unkey it should show clear. If this is reversed you need to change
>>>> either from usb to usbinvert or vica versa.  Once you have this setup
>>>> correctly you should hear a courtesy tone when you unkey and you should be
>>>> able to use DTMF. Try *81 to see if it plays the time. You will also
>>>> probably have to set the levels - items 2 and 3. All this is detailed in
>>>> the setup instructions.
>>>> 
>>>> Once that is setup you need to make sure echolink is setup correctly. There
>>>> is also a howto on this on the web page - hamvoip.org <http://hamvoip.org/>.
>>>> You need to have
>>>> port forwarding and you can only have one Echolink existence per public IP.
>>>> If you do use a smart phone running echo link it must be using the cell
>>>> network for Internet and not your local wifi where the Pi is running.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>> 
>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>> 
>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio> <
>>>> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>>*
>>>> 
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