[arm-allstar] I'm having problems with the 1.5 build.

Ronald E Foster merlinsmurd at icloud.com
Sat Jan 28 12:20:15 EST 2017


You can use an x-terminal app like putty or WinSCP to log onto the pi3 using a cat5 cable from your router. Look at your router's connected devices for the IP address. Also, the readme file is on the hamvoip.org website.

Ronnie - K0AAJ

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 11:16 AM, James V Freetage via arm-allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
> 
> Seems I need to attach a monitor and keyboard before I can even get the
> thing to connect to a network. Is there something I'm missing?
> 
>  Also, is there any way to get a copy of the readme since I can't get to
> it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> W8JVF
> 
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>   1. Re: UCA222 info --was:RPi GPIO COS/PTT (David McGough)
>   2. Re: The hamvoip Allstar V1.5 release is now available!
>      (Doug Crompton)
>   3. Re: UCA222 info --was:RPi GPIO COS/PTT (Josh W4ZZK)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 01:48:26 -0500 (EST)
> From: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> To: "\"Josh W4ZZK via arm-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] UCA222 info --was:RPi GPIO COS/PTT
> Message-ID:
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> 
> 
> Hi Josh,
> 
> I've used UCA222 devices at Field Day for HF digital modes a couple of
> years now and around the shack.  They have worked well for me, with far
> superior audio quality to the bargain basement CM1xy fobs.
> 
> I've got one hooked to some JBL LSR305 monitors with a JBL PSW-1200, via a
> 10 foot USB extension cable. No problem. (And shockingly good audio!)
> 
> I've got medium-power (110W class) VHF and UHF gear nearby, high-power HF
> in the other room.
> 
> The caveat I've found is to make sure to break-up USB ground loops, they
> will cause major grief. I've found these isolators work very well. At
> Field day, this isolator made the difference between being completely
> functional and totally useless:
> 
> http://us.hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=69
> 
> 
> 73, David KB4FXC
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, "Josh W4ZZK via arm-allstar" wrote:
>> 
>> Just a note about the Behringer UCA222
>> I'm an Audio Engineer and Production Manager in AL/MS/TN market, and
>> have "played" with these little boxes for several years.  The newer
>> 222's are quite better in manufacturing than the older ones.  Hard to
>> believe, but since Behringer had been bought up by Music Group, their
>> QC has went up some in this device's pro-sumer market... even by leaps
>> and bounds in the commercial/professional sector.
>> 
>> Do note that these 222 boxes are VERY susceptible to RFI. For example,
>> I attempted to use it as a "receiving" sound card for a few Online
>> Streams at a local EMA office.... typical install scenario....
>> computer, radios, and this box all were in a rather active RF
>> environment. (HF VHF and UHF).  I don't know if I simply had a unique
>> scenario on my hands, but there would be some times where it would
>> "lose sync" with the computer, like I had disconnected the USB cable.
>> That meant restarting the streaming app to regain sync.  Remoting in
>> to the PC again and again to resync the device got old pretty quickly.
>> Perhaps there were more RFI choking and eliminating I could have done,
>> but I exhausted all feasible, and "affordable" options before going
>> with individual $3 CM108 Cards, which work GREAT.  Maybe some way to
>> bleed off transient voltage from active RF environments would work...
>> I don't know.  But, in their normal operation, the little 222 boxes
>> are halfway decent. Very simple audio interface. Would love to see a
>> schematic of it, and know how we could go in the future with using
>> that box.
>> 
>> Josh Hatton W4ZZK
>> Muscle Shoals, AL
>> w4zzkjosh at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:16 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
>> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>>  The Raspberry Pi has no direct audio input, no A/D so anything direct
>>> would not be possible. The USB works fine on the Pi with thousands of
> nodes
>>> out there using it.
>>> 
>>> The two approaches I mentioned (FOB mod and Nano) are both good choices.
>>> The Nano gives you the option of using unmodified FOBS, like the ones
> you
>>> have with blobs, for audio so don't throw them out. It also gives the
>>> future option of using better, albeit more expensive, sound devices like
>>> the Behringer UCA222. Devices like this give two channel input and
> output
>>> which opens up a lot of new possibilities.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *73 Doug*
>>> 
>>> *WA3DSP*
>>> 
>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:29 AM, "Jim Kinter Jr. via arm-allstar" <
>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks David, and my condolences.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been curious for a while now why no one uses the built in audio
>>>> system (not just this project)? Is it that buggy?
>>>> A while back, I built a Pi Echolink (svxlink) link node (it used a USB
> fob
>>>> as well), using VOX for COS and a GPIO for PTT.
>>>> It worked for the most part, but sometimes the PTT would get stuck
>>>> (Murphy's law- at the worst possible moment, like when still 1.5 hours
> away
>>>> coming back from a hamfest in north Texas & it is deadkeying the local
>>>> repeater--called the house and had daughter unplug the powerpole
> connection
>>>> feeding the whole thing). That might have been an RFI thing causing
> it, as
>>>> I had it in a plastic box, so I wonder if a metal enclosure/ferrites
> might
>>>> have helped....
>>>> 
>>>> I just think, why did they include such things (sound and GPIO) if they
>>>> dont work? :-)
>>>> 
>>>> thanks again, and Ill have a look at the Nano solution.
>>>> 
>>>> 73
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 12:13 AM 1/23/2017, David Lang wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017, "Jim Kinter Jr. via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> I have been searching over the info on the site and mail list, and
> cant
>>>>>> seem to find if any instructions are available for using the Pi's
> GPIO for
>>>>>> COS/PTT yet.
>>>>>> I have found where it said it will be included in a future release,
> and
>>>>>> some other instructions with config settings, but nothing more
> definitive
>>>>>> (which pins to use for what, config settings for those pins, etc).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I friend of mine is using this setup on his repeater with URI, and Id
>>>>>> like to use what I already have without spending $100 a pop on URIs
> per
>>>>>> setup (I already have a few Pi's at my disposal)
>>>>>> I had bought a half dozen USB sound FOBs, but all were blobbed (they
>>>>>> were cheap, so I even attempted to mine down into one blob to see
> what I
>>>>>> could see, probably effectively destroying the one FOB/losing $2).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So is this capability available yet, and if so, where might I find
> more
>>>>>> info?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is not yet available, they have decided to not use the GPIO pins
>>>>> directly, but to run things through an arduino nano, so it's a $20
> option
>>>>> instead of a $100 option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> hardware details are available at:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/radiofarmprojects/home/hamvoip
>>>>> -nano-interface
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
>>>>> 
>>>>> support for this is not yet in any release of the allstar software,
> but
>>>>> they were planning a release in December that was postponed due to a
> death
>>>>> in the community. They were planning to have this support either in
> that
>>>>> release or within a couple of weeks after.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Lang
>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> arm-allstar mailing list
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>>>> 
>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 02:19:46 -0500
> From: Doug Crompton <wa3dsp at gmail.com>
> To: Tom Hayward <tom at tomh.us>
> Cc: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] The hamvoip Allstar V1.5 release is now
>        available!
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Tom,
> 
> The answer to your question is on page 11 of the readme!
> 
> 
> 
> *73 Doug*
> 
> *WA3DSP*
> 
> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Tom Hayward <tom at tomh.us> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:24 PM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
>> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>> The archived files are noticeably smaller as the source is not in the
>> image
>> 
>> Does this mean Allstar is no longer open source? If it is open source,
>> can you share a link to the source? I wasn't able to find a link on
>> hamvoip.org.
>> 
>> Tom KD7LXL
>> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:09:36 -0600
> From: Josh W4ZZK <w4zzkjosh at gmail.com>
> To: David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>, "\"Josh W4ZZK via
>        arm-allstar\"" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] UCA222 info --was:RPi GPIO COS/PTT
> Message-ID: <AB667299-8E4F-498A-9ABA-3FA8591A8C46 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> David
> Thanka for that info. I will look into this.
> Josh W4ZZK
> 
> On January 28, 2017 12:48:26 AM CST, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Josh,
>> 
>> I've used UCA222 devices at Field Day for HF digital modes a couple of
>> years now and around the shack.  They have worked well for me, with far
>> superior audio quality to the bargain basement CM1xy fobs.
>> 
>> I've got one hooked to some JBL LSR305 monitors with a JBL PSW-1200,
>> via a
>> 10 foot USB extension cable. No problem. (And shockingly good audio!)
>> 
>> I've got medium-power (110W class) VHF and UHF gear nearby, high-power
>> HF
>> in the other room.
>> 
>> The caveat I've found is to make sure to break-up USB ground loops,
>> they
>> will cause major grief. I've found these isolators work very well. At
>> Field day, this isolator made the difference between being completely
>> functional and totally useless:
>> 
>> http://us.hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=69
>> 
>> 
>> 73, David KB4FXC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, "Josh W4ZZK via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a note about the Behringer UCA222
>>> I'm an Audio Engineer and Production Manager in AL/MS/TN market, and
>>> have "played" with these little boxes for several years.  The newer
>>> 222's are quite better in manufacturing than the older ones.  Hard to
>>> believe, but since Behringer had been bought up by Music Group, their
>>> QC has went up some in this device's pro-sumer market... even by
>> leaps
>>> and bounds in the commercial/professional sector.
>>> 
>>> Do note that these 222 boxes are VERY susceptible to RFI. For
>> example,
>>> I attempted to use it as a "receiving" sound card for a few Online
>>> Streams at a local EMA office.... typical install scenario....
>>> computer, radios, and this box all were in a rather active RF
>>> environment. (HF VHF and UHF).  I don't know if I simply had a unique
>>> scenario on my hands, but there would be some times where it would
>>> "lose sync" with the computer, like I had disconnected the USB cable.
>>> That meant restarting the streaming app to regain sync.  Remoting in
>>> to the PC again and again to resync the device got old pretty
>> quickly.
>>> Perhaps there were more RFI choking and eliminating I could have
>> done,
>>> but I exhausted all feasible, and "affordable" options before going
>>> with individual $3 CM108 Cards, which work GREAT.  Maybe some way to
>>> bleed off transient voltage from active RF environments would work...
>>> I don't know.  But, in their normal operation, the little 222 boxes
>>> are halfway decent. Very simple audio interface. Would love to see a
>>> schematic of it, and know how we could go in the future with using
>>> that box.
>>> 
>>> Josh Hatton W4ZZK
>>> Muscle Shoals, AL
>>> w4zzkjosh at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:16 AM, "Doug Crompton via arm-allstar"
>>> <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>> Jim,
>>>> 
>>>>  The Raspberry Pi has no direct audio input, no A/D so anything
>> direct
>>>> would not be possible. The USB works fine on the Pi with thousands
>> of nodes
>>>> out there using it.
>>>> 
>>>> The two approaches I mentioned (FOB mod and Nano) are both good
>> choices.
>>>> The Nano gives you the option of using unmodified FOBS, like the
>> ones you
>>>> have with blobs, for audio so don't throw them out. It also gives
>> the
>>>> future option of using better, albeit more expensive, sound devices
>> like
>>>> the Behringer UCA222. Devices like this give two channel input and
>> output
>>>> which opens up a lot of new possibilities.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *73 Doug*
>>>> 
>>>> *WA3DSP*
>>>> 
>>>> *http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
>> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:29 AM, "Jim Kinter Jr. via arm-allstar" <
>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks David, and my condolences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been curious for a while now why no one uses the built in
>> audio
>>>>> system (not just this project)? Is it that buggy?
>>>>> A while back, I built a Pi Echolink (svxlink) link node (it used a
>> USB fob
>>>>> as well), using VOX for COS and a GPIO for PTT.
>>>>> It worked for the most part, but sometimes the PTT would get stuck
>>>>> (Murphy's law- at the worst possible moment, like when still 1.5
>> hours away
>>>>> coming back from a hamfest in north Texas & it is deadkeying the
>> local
>>>>> repeater--called the house and had daughter unplug the powerpole
>> connection
>>>>> feeding the whole thing). That might have been an RFI thing
>> causing it, as
>>>>> I had it in a plastic box, so I wonder if a metal
>> enclosure/ferrites might
>>>>> have helped....
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just think, why did they include such things (sound and GPIO) if
>> they
>>>>> dont work? :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks again, and Ill have a look at the Nano solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 12:13 AM 1/23/2017, David Lang wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2017, "Jim Kinter Jr. via arm-allstar" wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> I have been searching over the info on the site and mail list,
>> and cant
>>>>>>> seem to find if any instructions are available for using the
>> Pi's GPIO for
>>>>>>> COS/PTT yet.
>>>>>>> I have found where it said it will be included in a future
>> release, and
>>>>>>> some other instructions with config settings, but nothing more
>> definitive
>>>>>>> (which pins to use for what, config settings for those pins,
>> etc).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I friend of mine is using this setup on his repeater with URI,
>> and Id
>>>>>>> like to use what I already have without spending $100 a pop on
>> URIs per
>>>>>>> setup (I already have a few Pi's at my disposal)
>>>>>>> I had bought a half dozen USB sound FOBs, but all were blobbed
>> (they
>>>>>>> were cheap, so I even attempted to mine down into one blob to
>> see what I
>>>>>>> could see, probably effectively destroying the one FOB/losing
>> $2).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So is this capability available yet, and if so, where might I
>> find more
>>>>>>> info?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is not yet available, they have decided to not use the GPIO
>> pins
>>>>>> directly, but to run things through an arduino nano, so it's a
>> $20 option
>>>>>> instead of a $100 option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hardware details are available at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/radiofarmprojects/home/hamvoip
>>>>>> -nano-interface
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://hamvoip.org/hamradio/Nano_Allstar_Interface/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> support for this is not yet in any release of the allstar
>> software, but
>>>>>> they were planning a release in December that was postponed due
>> to a death
>>>>>> in the community. They were planning to have this support either
>> in that
>>>>>> release or within a couple of weeks after.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Lang
>>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> arm-allstar mailing list
>>>>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>>>>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> arm-allstar mailing list
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>>>> 
>>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> arm-allstar mailing list
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>>> 
>>> Visit the BBB and RPi2/3 web page - http://hamvoip.org
>>> 
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