[arm-allstar] Allstarlink.org Trouble

Fri May 6 10:33:18 EST 2016

Hi Wayne,

You are correct that the stats are off-line, with those servers being
repaired/upgraded. That service is offered via the allstarlink.org
website, not hamvoip.org.

I know they're diligently trying to get the issues resolved.

I haven't heard an ETA for when everything will be back on-line.

73, David KB4FXC

On Fri, 6 May 2016, Wayne Jauss via arm-allstar wrote:

> I can not see the bubble map or see connection status. Get can not open CGI file. Any thoughts?Been broke for me for more than a week.
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> Â  1. Re: just getting started and trying to understand the current
> Â  Â  Â  requirements with a PI2 or similar (Doug Crompton)
> Â  2. Re: just getting started and trying to understand the current
> Â  Â  Â  requirements with a PI2 or similar (Roselito de los Reyes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:45:23 -0400
> From: Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to
> Â Â Â  understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> Message-ID: <BLU171-W70041EC1208F0019D32CE2BA7C0 at phx.gbl>
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> Dave,
> 
>  We are working on this problem in a number of ways and hopefully soon will have some answers. There may be a production of a much cheaper URI type interface and also we are working on a USB to serial approach. Stay tuned.
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 17:46:15 -0700
> > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> > From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > CC: david at lang.hm
> > 
> > Just a quick follow-up on this as I'm finally getting some hardware in-hand to 
> > play with (and time to think of it :-)
> > 
> > It's getting hard to find the cheap USB sound FOBs that do not have the chip 
> > covered with epoxy, so there is actually some real value in using the GPIOs of 
> > the Pi/BBB instead of the ones on the FOBs
> > 
> > David Lang
> > 
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, David Lang wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Doug Crompton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dave,
> > >> 
> > >> Yes, you will need a USB sound interface which can be the $70 DMK URI or a 
> > >> $3 modified sound FOB. A very simple modification and source link for the 
> > >> FOB is in the howto section at hamvoip.org.
> > >> 
> > >> Built-in sound would not work. There is no audio input on the Pi and output 
> > >> is normally routed to HDMI but can be routed to a TRRS connector - 
> > >> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
> > >
> > > ahh, I didn't realize it was missing the input side.
> > >
> > > I'm actually looking at building a small system with two linked receviers to 
> > > one transmitter.
> > >
> > > I'll look into the USB sound FOBs for the recever.
> > >
> > > Years ago I did a lot of adapatign of different mics to Yeasu/Icom handhelds, 
> > > I'm assuming the newest handhelds have fairly similar interfaces. In most 
> > > cases the interface is not much more than a cap, resister, and sometimes a 
> > > transister. Much cheaper than the $270 official allstar interface boards :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for the clarification.
> > >
> > > David Lang
> > > AG6AH
> > >
> > >> There has been interest in using the GPIO for COS and PTT but the USB FOBS 
> > >> have the I/O also. The modification to bring it out of the FOB is really 
> > >> not complicated. The SAME interface circuitry would be needed if using I/O 
> > >> on the FOB or off the GPIO pins. So it is really not simpler.Â  So there is 
> > >> no completely easy way unless you buy a DMK URI.
> > >> 
> > >> I suggest you checkout the howto for simple USB sound FOB mod. At less than 
> > >> $4 it is certainly worth a try. You don't have much to lose. If you want to 
> > >> save over $60 and you have some patience it is a fun one night project.
> > >> 
> > >> The steps involve opening the FOB, the case piratically falls off. 
> > >> Soldering two small wires to the chip. This is the hardest part but not 
> > >> really difficult. A real easy way is shown in the photos. Solder three more 
> > >> wires onto the connectors. Bring those five wires out in a shielded cable 
> > >> (old usb cable works - 4 conductor and shield/ground) and at the other end 
> > >> wire up the additional interface components either in a small box or in a 
> > >> connector as shown in the howto. The FOBS reduce to $2.40 in 10 quantities.
> > >> 
> > >> I don't have the time but it would be great if someone offered to build 
> > >> these for people who can not. Either partially or completely with a DB25 
> > >> wired like the DMK on the radio end. The user would just have to supply the 
> > >> 25 pin to radio connection the same as using a DMK URI. Wiring it this way 
> > >> would make it plug compatible with the URI. I would think this could be 
> > >> done for around 1/3 of the price of the URI. I guess I am dreaming though 
> > >> because there are vendors out there ripping people off for an interface 
> > >> cable and two connectors for $50!
> > >> 
> > >> Hams are cheap and you are right paying twice as much for a sound interface 
> > >> as the main board is a lot and if you have two nodes on one board even 
> > >> more.
> > >> 
> > >> 73 Doug
> > >> WA3DSP
> > >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:58:39 -0700
> > >>> From: david at lang.hm
> > >>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > >>> Subject: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the 
> > >>> current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> > >>> 
> > >>> I see several blog posts talking about using a RPi with allstar that 
> > >>> ignore the
> > >>> built-in audio and GPIO pins of the Pi in favor of external interface 
> > >>> boards
> > >>> that cost several times more than the Pi does.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I'm hoping that these were just early attempts and current versions will 
> > >>> use the
> > >>> built-in audio and much simpler radio interfaces from the GPIOs
> > >>> 
> > >>> What's the status on this sort of work?
> > >>> 
> > >>> David Lang
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> 
> > >>> arm-allstar mailing list
> > >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > >>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >>> 
> > >>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >>> 
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > arm-allstar mailing list
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> > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > 
> > Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > 
>  Â Â Â  Â Â Â  Â Â Â  Â  Â Â Â  Â Â Â  Â  
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> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:54:09 -0700
> From: Roselito de los Reyes <tolitski at hotmail.com>
> To: ARM Allstar <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to
> Â Â Â  understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar
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> Doug,
> I have seen in other threads that there were versions of simpleusb that supported parallel ports and serial ports. Has these been removed from the HamVoip version?
> 73 Lito de KK6OOS
> 
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:45:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> CC: doug at crompton.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
>  We are working on this problem in a number of ways and hopefully soon will have some answers. There may be a production of a much cheaper URI type interface and also we are working on a USB to serial approach. Stay tuned.
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 17:46:15 -0700
> > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> > From: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > CC: david at lang.hm
> > 
> > Just a quick follow-up on this as I'm finally getting some hardware in-hand to 
> > play with (and time to think of it :-)
> > 
> > It's getting hard to find the cheap USB sound FOBs that do not have the chip 
> > covered with epoxy, so there is actually some real value in using the GPIOs of 
> > the Pi/BBB instead of the ones on the FOBs
> > 
> > David Lang
> > 
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, David Lang wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, Doug Crompton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dave,
> > >> 
> > >> Yes, you will need a USB sound interface which can be the $70 DMK URI or a 
> > >> $3 modified sound FOB. A very simple modification and source link for the 
> > >> FOB is in the howto section at hamvoip.org.
> > >> 
> > >> Built-in sound would not work. There is no audio input on the Pi and output 
> > >> is normally routed to HDMI but can be routed to a TRRS connector - 
> > >> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
> > >
> > > ahh, I didn't realize it was missing the input side.
> > >
> > > I'm actually looking at building a small system with two linked receviers to 
> > > one transmitter.
> > >
> > > I'll look into the USB sound FOBs for the recever.
> > >
> > > Years ago I did a lot of adapatign of different mics to Yeasu/Icom handhelds, 
> > > I'm assuming the newest handhelds have fairly similar interfaces. In most 
> > > cases the interface is not much more than a cap, resister, and sometimes a 
> > > transister. Much cheaper than the $270 official allstar interface boards :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for the clarification.
> > >
> > > David Lang
> > > AG6AH
> > >
> > >> There has been interest in using the GPIO for COS and PTT but the USB FOBS 
> > >> have the I/O also. The modification to bring it out of the FOB is really 
> > >> not complicated. The SAME interface circuitry would be needed if using I/O 
> > >> on the FOB or off the GPIO pins. So it is really not simpler.Â  So there is 
> > >> no completely easy way unless you buy a DMK URI.
> > >> 
> > >> I suggest you checkout the howto for simple USB sound FOB mod. At less than 
> > >> $4 it is certainly worth a try. You don't have much to lose. If you want to 
> > >> save over $60 and you have some patience it is a fun one night project.
> > >> 
> > >> The steps involve opening the FOB, the case piratically falls off. 
> > >> Soldering two small wires to the chip. This is the hardest part but not 
> > >> really difficult. A real easy way is shown in the photos. Solder three more 
> > >> wires onto the connectors. Bring those five wires out in a shielded cable 
> > >> (old usb cable works - 4 conductor and shield/ground) and at the other end 
> > >> wire up the additional interface components either in a small box or in a 
> > >> connector as shown in the howto. The FOBS reduce to $2.40 in 10 quantities.
> > >> 
> > >> I don't have the time but it would be great if someone offered to build 
> > >> these for people who can not. Either partially or completely with a DB25 
> > >> wired like the DMK on the radio end. The user would just have to supply the 
> > >> 25 pin to radio connection the same as using a DMK URI. Wiring it this way 
> > >> would make it plug compatible with the URI. I would think this could be 
> > >> done for around 1/3 of the price of the URI. I guess I am dreaming though 
> > >> because there are vendors out there ripping people off for an interface 
> > >> cable and two connectors for $50!
> > >> 
> > >> Hams are cheap and you are right paying twice as much for a sound interface 
> > >> as the main board is a lot and if you have two nodes on one board even 
> > >> more.
> > >> 
> > >> 73 Doug
> > >> WA3DSP
> > >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 17:58:39 -0700
> > >>> From: david at lang.hm
> > >>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > >>> Subject: [arm-allstar] just getting started and trying to understand the 
> > >>> current requirements with a PI2 or similar
> > >>> 
> > >>> I see several blog posts talking about using a RPi with allstar that 
> > >>> ignore the
> > >>> built-in audio and GPIO pins of the Pi in favor of external interface 
> > >>> boards
> > >>> that cost several times more than the Pi does.
> > >>> 
> > >>> I'm hoping that these were just early attempts and current versions will 
> > >>> use the
> > >>> built-in audio and much simpler radio interfaces from the GPIOs
> > >>> 
> > >>> What's the status on this sort of work?
> > >>> 
> > >>> David Lang
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> 
> > >>> arm-allstar mailing list
> > >>> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > >>> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >>> 
> > >>> Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > >>> 
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > arm-allstar mailing list
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> > 
> > Visit the BBB and RPi2 web page - http://hamvoip.org
> > 
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