[arm-allstar] tones on transmission

[Ryan Kovacs]

I don't understand why the node would key the radio up over a couple of
people having a conversation, say HT to HT (locally) other than to annoy
the parties that have no idea there is a 3rd radio out there TXing a tone
over the start of their conversation. No one is connected to the AllStar
node, so why would it key up at all?


On Sep 10, 2015 9:51 PM, "Doug Crompton" <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

> The courtesy tone goes out to any local device connected to the node. So
> it would go out over the connected radio. For simplex operation when COS
> drops indicating an RF station stopped transmitting there is a delay
> (settable) and then the node TX keys and the courtesy tone is sent. For
> full duplex at the end of an RF transmission when COS drops the repeater
> stays keyed for the delay period and then the courtesy tone is sent.
>
> I think what you were hearing was normal. Courtesy tone is meant to
> indicate end of transmission and the other party can talk. If you are
> talking over it then you are keying up too fast.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:47:54 -0400
> From: tukosei at gmail.com
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] tones on transmission
>
> The issue I was having was no one was using/ logged into or using the
> node. The conversation was between 2 parties, radio to radio (rf only) and
> the system was keying over the start of their conversation.
> I changed the setting and it seems to be gone.
> Thanks!
> Ryan
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
>
> In the node stanza in rpt.conf that you want to eliminate courtesy tone
> add -
>
>
>
> *nounkeyct=1*Note that courtesy tones are there for two reasons. One is
> to force users to wait until after the tone to speak. This eliminates
> cutoff of audio due to delays in the system. you should always wait 2-3
> seconds to transmit. Fast keying is not a good thing in Allstar. It also
> does not allow others to break in. The other reason especially on simplex
> odes is to show that the RX actually heard you. On repeaters Allstar is
> often used as the controller and thus the courtesy tone would be for the
> repeater. Most repeaters have courtesy tones.
>
>
>
> *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 16:29:24 -0400
> From: tukosei at gmail.com
> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> Subject: [arm-allstar] tones on transmission
>
>
> I am trying to eliminate a “courtesy tone” on my setup. It seems that each
> time the system hears a radio transmission; it has to transmit a tone about
> 2 seconds after the end of the reception. Sometimes, it will transmit over
> the person trying to talk (RF) back. This occurs when there is no one
> connected to the node.
> My setup is using a Pi2 > USB sound card > HT radio.
> I tried adjusting some of the .conf files but haven’t found the setting
> yet.
>
>
> Ryan
> KK4OSG
>
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