[arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?
Justin Reed
celltech161 at gmail.com
Sat May 9 00:27:55 EST 2015
I could see perhaps having an IRLP reflector setup with the capability
to bridge to D-Star, but as far has having an end-user link the two
together, it would be banned in a heartbeat. And for good reason.
Having the bridge as a part of the reflector ensures that both parties
have to opt-in, and that nobody is having to accept a D-Star link they
don't want.
I wouldn't want that terrible audio coming across my machine either.
There is no point in it.
On 5/5/2015 1:11 AM, R. Wayne wrote:
> I’m sorry but “we on IRLP really don’t this.” what? You don’t want it?
> With all due respect you don’t speak for all of IRLP any more than you
> speak for D-STAR. We have users on both sides of both that would like
> to be bridged. Regarding D-STAR I think a periodic net would be fine.
> Perhaps that is a compromise that would make you, a single
> Allstar/D-STAR user okay?
> But not the same for IRLP. It is a linking method just like Allstar.
> Allstar is many times better but both agree in not sending courtesy
> tones, CW ID’s, etc. Just clean receiver audio. So again with all due
> respect what is your issue? I am not the one that raised these points
> to begin with.
> *From:* Clint (WB3EHB) <mailto:wb3ehb at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 9:31 PM
> *To:* ARM Allstar <mailto:arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?
> Excuse my bluntness... buntness, but we on IRLP really don't this.
> ,
>
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> *From*:"R. Wayne" <allstar at controlservers.net>
> *Date*:Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:23 PM
> *Subject*:Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?
>
> This is going off topic... the packaged D-STAR repeaters are terrible
> and have a 1uV receive sensitivity. Only by adding a preamp can one
> improve. But they also have poor adjacent channel selectivity. Adding
> a preamp only adds to a problem. With this aside:
> We need a quick and easy bridge to D-STAR. We had a user one night
> hold his microphone up to his D-STAR rig and went back and forth
> linking it over our 2m repeater. It was a hit on both sides! Our users
> loved talking with New Zealand and vice versa.
> I need a bridge to IRLP. Are there instructions anywhere? I realize
> that Mr. Cameron is opposed to this but well... unlike his begging for
> donations to pay for his massive web hosting services that are nothing
> more than a single dedicated server we are happy to put our own
> dedicated server online in our own data center. But I need to know how
> to create the bridge.
> Lastly, I’d like a bridge to HF. We would replace the RF squelch
> circuit on the HF rig with a MICOR-like hysteresis type. But users
> have expressed a desire to have a periodic net.
> Are these possible bridges?
> R. Wayne
> *From:* Matthew Pitts <javascript:return>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 7:50 PM
> *To:* ARM Allstar <javascript:return>
> *Subject:* Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?
> I would like to point out that the specifications for both are
> available and in the case of D-STAR there are functional options that
> can be used with any radio to create both a repeater and an end user
> radio, plus there are other radios in development that will support
> it. I will also point out that some folks take the "experimentation"
> part of ham radio seriously and that we accept that not everyone will
> want to use our systems because of that.
>
> Matthew Pitts
> N8OHU
> AllStar nodes 28713, 28910, 28912, 28913
>
> On May 4, 2015 8:08:18 PM EDT, Fred Moore <fred at fmeco.com> wrote:
>
> Can you imagine what would have happened to SSB if back in the
> 60'es you could only get it from one vendor.. ??
> Good comment Doug.. you expressed my feelings exactly... Fred
>
> On 5/4/15 7:55 PM, Doug Crompton wrote:
>> Neil, just my opinion. I didn't mean to offend anyone. It is
>> certainly alright to ask. I was just pointing out that the
>> current VHF/UHF digital modes IMHO stink and hams are being sold
>> a bill of goods by the retailers. On the other hand it is always
>> good to know the technical side so I will sit back and listen.
>>
>> As for Allstar there are a couple of key things on audio quality.
>> One is the fact that usbradio can and often does have serious
>> problems with distorted audio. As long as you are using simpleusb
>> which most if not all BBB and RPi2 user are the considerations
>> are levels and equalization (needing pre/deemphasis). Often a new
>> user needs help with this and we need to offer that.You can get
>> good clean Allstar audio but there is nothing you can do with
>> poor digital audio.
>>
>> *73 Doug
>> WA3DSP
>> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio*
>>
>>
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>> From: k8it at cac.net
>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 19:04:33 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar
>> and how?
>>
>> Sorry Doug. I thought I was asking a technical question not a
>> political question. I have heard dstar repeaters with good and
>> bad audio as well. the allstar codec seems to be one of the best
>> however there are some nodes with there levels way off and sound
>> awful. anyway I was asking from a tech side not a political side.
>> I did not realize this was a sensitive topic
>> 73 neil k8it
>> *From:* Doug Crompton <javascript:return>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 6:20 PM
>> *To:* ARM Allstar <javascript:return>
>> *Subject:* Re: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar
>> and how?
>> Anything can be bridged to anything else in numerous ways but I
>> was wondering why you would want to mess up our wonderful Allstar
>> audio with crappy Dstar audio? Personally I don't want to hear
>> any of the current amateur digital audio on Allstar. A circuit is
>> only as good as its worst audio! That being said you can do
>> anything you want but if I hear that kind of audio on any circuit
>> I maintain I would disconnect it unless it is an emergency.
>>
>> *73 Doug
>> WA3DSP
>> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio*
>>
>>
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>> From: k8it at cac.net
>> To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 16:53:11 -0400
>> Subject: [arm-allstar] has anybody bridged dstar to allstar and how?
>>
>> I have a beagle bone black, uri running asterisk v1.2.1
>> what is the easiest way to bridge to dstar? we do not have any
>> local dstar repeaters so I am thinking about a dstar dongle or
>> modem but how to interface it to asterisk v1.2.1?
>> thanks 73 neil k8it
>>
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