[arm-allstar] remote base node functioning question

wb3awj at comcast.net wb3awj at comcast.net
Tue Jun 23 21:08:05 EST 2015


By that method you would use what ever DTMF commands that you've mapped.


But here's a gotcha.....


I can't speak for the BBB or Pi versions, mine runs under Acid. I'm assuming most of the same follows suit here......


If you designate the node as a "Remote Base" some of the functionality is changed. 


For instance if the node is not connected to any other inbound node, or IaxRpt/Zoiper extension, it cannot initiate a command.  


So let's say you have only CLI session going, "rpt fun xxxxx *yyyy" won't do a do a thing. But dial in with IaxRpt and then it will. But of course if you have your functions-phone assignment and context set properly you should be able to dial the commands from IaxRpt or Zoiper.


In a community setting another thing is there can only be one connection at a time to the remote base. That's why I have a few extra hubs running. Connect to the base from a hub, then however many others you want in on it connect to the hub.


If you coordinate the DTMF commands on the remote base to be the same sequences as macros on your other nodes (like the *5217 in the one I posted where *52 replaced *0), and command of the base should be nearly transparent to the users.


This agile remote base stuff is different and and a bit quirky.


Robert A. Poff

Loganville, Pa



On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:10 PM -0700, "Michael Hebert" <mhebert1975 at gmail.com> wrote:










Let me add some more info. If I connect to my remote base node with putty and enter the asterisk -rvvv, how would I issue commands to the remote base node? 
rpt fun 731 *????
My goal is to be able to use my laptop at a remote location and remotely control the node using XIPRadio window client with * commands
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Michael Hebert <mhebert1975 at gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, I see it now. 
So the current setup I have now is a Pi version 2 1.0 image. It is connected to my IC-7000 using a USB cable. It is working using hamlib with putty. I am using "rigctl -m 360 -r /dev/radio -s 9600" then issuing the commands and the radio response correctly. I then quit rigctl
I then connect to my remote base node using XIPRadio window client. I issue the *91 command and hear KD5DFB over the computer speakers. I have tried several different ways to issue remote commands directly to the remote base node. 
Is it not possible to connect directly to a remote base , login and issue control command?

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Robert A. Poff WB3AWJ <wb3awj at comcast.net> wrote:
>From one of the other nodes, for example my UHF repeater (27784), it sends a "remote command" to a connected node.
In this case my 2m remote base (28260).

*4         - Execute a remote command on another node
28260 -  The node to command
*5217  - The command to execute  ( in this case tune the Syntor to channel 17 as defined in its rpt.conf)
#           - End the remote command session.

From: "Michael Hebert" <mhebert1975 at gmail.com>
To: "ARM Allstar" <arm-allstar at hamvoip.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:33:04 PM
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] remote base node functioning question

All,
This is really good stuff!! I have been wanting to remote base my IC-7000 for years. I am on the last leg and needs some direction. I am able to control my 7000 using hamlib without any problems. I connect to my node using XIPRadio window client. I issue the *91 command and hear my callsign announced. For the life of me, I cannot find out the correct syntax to control the radio. 
I am looking at the marco that Robert wb3awj posted "217=*428260*5217#                      ;Select Channel 17 on 2m"
What does the *428260 reference to?
Thanks in advance!
Michael KD5DFB
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Sam Skolfield <kj6qfs at gmail.com> wrote:
Before I get to embarrassing myself, I want to thank everyone that has helped me here on the thread. The helpfulness of this community never ceases to amaze me, and I can't wait to pay it forward. David even went so far (out of the kindness of his own heart) as to do research on my xcat and it's history with hamlib. 
Now, *drumroll* 

I WASN'T DOING A # AT THE END OF THE REMOTE FUNCTION!

The system now works ABSOLUTELY perfectly. Very smooth and reliable so far. I've been exercising every feature I can, and I can't seem to get anything to misbehave.
Thanks again to David, Sam, Doug, Ken, Tim, and Robert. 

73
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:01 AM, <wb3awj at comcast.net> wrote:


Are you ending the remote command with a # ?

For example the macro definitions to control the remote base on my other nodes looks like this :

[macros]
 ..
 ..
 217=*428260*5217#                      ;Select Channel 17 on 2m
 ..
 ..

An entry for each channel.

On the remote base itself, I've used *52 instead of the default memory select code (*0 I think). That way whether you're on one of the other nodes or IaxRpt/Zoiper directly connected to the remote, the channel change command is the same.

Robert A. Poff
 Loganville, Pa


On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:50 PM -0700, "Sam Skolfield" <kj6qfs at gmail.com> wrote:
 
Upon further poking, I've established that my problem has nothing to do with remote bases; it seems like asterisk hangs for me after I function any linked node (anytime I use a *4 to prefix another connected node) 

I tried simply connected my main BBB's  simpleusb node (not a remote base node) to my other BBB's main simpleusb node (not a remote base node). I then functioned the linked BBB to do a *81. It did so properly, but then my "main" BBB locks up and wont take any more commands. 

Any ideas?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Kenneth Grimard <n1dot1 at gmail.com> wrote:
ok very good then
 
 i will have to try that then later when i get a bbb or raspi2,
 
ken
 
On 06/17/2015 05:58 PM, Sam Skolfield wrote:
Ken, like I said, the USB-serial adapter is working perfectly with my BBB. Frequency commands, etc are working just fine!
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Kenneth Grimard <n1dot1 at gmail.com> wrote:
as i said to you before sam I have gotten this to work with the acid code.
 it will not work for full cat control using a usb serial adapter i had tried that myself.
 you need a real pc with a real serial port. I am using a pc with a pentium 4 processor with a 
 real serial port usb to serial just does not work at all.
 
 other wise it does work very well and you have to program the icon 706 a certain for it to work also.
 
 i have been successful with this. unless the code can be modified to use the gpio on a raspi.
 
 usb to serial just does not work at all not with out modifying the code.
 
 cat control is done via the icom ci-v protocol from with in app_rpt.c
 
 
ken n1dot
 
 
 
 
 
 On 6/17/2015 2:11 PM, Sam Nabkey wrote:


Sam Scofield is running the xcat.  I was just trying to run an icom 706 or a Kenwood tm700d. 

Whenever you call a node a remote base, weirdness happens to the usb adapter.   It's just not workable in the bbb or even later revs of acid.

This interests me... I will have to run some experiments soon.

Which radios are you running and do you have any good scripts you could pass on and maybe how you operate it as a user?  I'd appreciate any input.

Sam NABJEY K8SN..On Jun 17, 2015 8:40 AM, "David McGough" <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

 Sam,
 
 I haven't personally used the Syntor X-cat adapter. I looked at their
 yahoo group and the documentation in the "files" section. Otherwise, I've
 used rigctl to manage many different radios, with great success. The first
 place to start is from the BBB shell prompt, with remote-base support
 disabled in app_rpt.  Once you get familiar with the various rigctl
 commands, macros for access via AllStar are pretty easy--just directly
 call the rigctl command from AllStar.
 
 I'm guessing you're using the CI-V interface method for the Xcat? Are you
 using full VFO capability, or just changing the Syntor's modes (AKA:
 channels)?
 
 If simply changing modes, I'm guessing some command something like this
 will work:
 
 /usr/local/bin/rigctl -r /dev/ttyUSB0 -m 311 -s 19200 -c0x20 h 27
 
 -r /dev/ttyUSB0   #### serial interface to use...
 -s 19200    #### serial data rate (Xcat uses 19200, based on the manual)
 -c0x20   #### CI-V address (Xcat is fixed at 0x20, from the manual)
 h 27   #### "h 27"  changes to memory channel channel 27
 
 
 "rigctl -l" will get a list of supported radio back-ends. I'd recommend
 trying various Icom back-ends, hopefully finding something that works
 100%.
 
 rigctl -l #### Get list of available back-ends
 
 "rigctl -m 311 -u" will get a list of supported features for a given
 back-end, try this. Note that the "-m 311" uses the ic-706mk2g back-end.
 
 rigctl -m 311 -u #### Get supported features for back-end 311
 
 
 I'll try to help further, once I understand more about your setup.
 
 
 73, David KB4FXC
 
 
 
 On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Sam Nabkey wrote:
 
 > That's cool.  Care to share some setup examples?  I'd love to see them.
 >
 > K8SN
 > On Jun 17, 2015 6:51 AM, "David McGough" <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > Hi Sam,
 > >
 > > I'm guessing that you're trying to use the built-in remote-base code in
 > > app_rpt??  If so, the only thing I can suggest at this point is to use
 > > hamlib (the "rigctl" program), instead of the built-in code.
 > >
 > > I use hamlib for several radios hosted by BBB's, etc., and it works
 > > perfectly for me.
 > >
 > >
 > > 73, David KB4FXC
 > >
 > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Sam Skolfield wrote:
 > >
 > > > Really too bad, I'm so close to success with what is obviously one of
 > > very
 > > > few attempts at a frequency-agile BBB node. Looking at the console with
 > > any
 > > > level of verbosity doesn't seem to reveal any useful information.
 > > > Unfortunately, it doesn't look like I'll be able to fix this any time
 > > soon.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Sam Nabkey <sam.nabkey at gmail.com>
 > > wrote:
 > > >
 > > > > I wish I had time and more knowledge. ..
 > > > >
 > > > > It's fun to try and figure it all out. .
 > > > > On Jun 16, 2015 5:06 PM, "Sam Skolfield" <kj6qfs at gmail.com> wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > >> Hi Sam!
 > > > >> That's frustrating! Perhaps someone can help us fix this bug? There
 > > has
 > > > >> to be more people that want to use frequency agile remote bases than
 > > just
 > > > >> the two Sams....
 > > > >>
 > > > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Sam Nabkey <sam.nabkey at gmail.com>
 > > wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >>> This is one of the same issues I experienced with the bbb code.  The
 > > cli
 > > > >>> will be blowing can't hang up errors at you while this is going on.
 > > My
 > > > >>> only recourse was to reboot.
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>> I went to an acid version before the changes were made to the channel
 > > > >>> drivers that was "fixed" to work reliably on the bbb to get my
 > > remote to
 > > > >>> work.
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>> Sam K8SN
 > > > >>> On Jun 16, 2015 8:04 AM, "Sam Skolfield" <kj6qfs at gmail.com> wrote:
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>> David, I'm using a *1 xxxx (xxxx being the node)
 > > > >>>>
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