[arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules -- Low Pass filter required!

Sun Nov 30 01:15:46 EST 2014

I'd have to call Arrow to get the pricing break down but I don't think they
would break down a reel. It may be possible to get samples from the factory.

Here is one for 2 meters.  http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/LFCN-120.pdf

From: arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org
[mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of Doug Crompton
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:46 PM
To: BeagleBone Black ARM Allstar
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules
-- Low Pass filter required!

Mark,

  That looks neat. What is the quantity one price? Unfortunately it doesn't
look like they make a 2 meter equivalent.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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From: mark at micro-node.com
To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:13:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules
-- Low Pass filter required!

Take a look at this one.

http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/LFCG-42+.pdf

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[mailto:arm-allstar-bounces at hamvoip.org] On Behalf Of Doug Crompton
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:50 PM
To: BeagleBone Black ARM Allstar
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules
-- Low Pass filter required!

It looks like the minicircuits 440mhz filters are pretty effective at the
2nd harmonic but the 2 meter ones not so good. These would be good filters
for 440 low power but they still cost over twice as much as the module so
unless you have one laying around that kind of defeats the low price point. 

http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/VLF-530.pdf

http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/VLF-490.pdf\
<http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/VLF-490.pdf/> 

http://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/VLF-180.pdf

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:09:32 -0600
From: w0anm73 at gmail.com
To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules
-- Low Pass filter required!

I use a lowpass filter on my dra818u module. However, I don't have the test
equipment to check the harmonics. I use this filter my rc gear.

It's a Mini-circuits 15542 low pass filter.

73,

Chris, w0anm

On Nov 29, 2014 12:12 PM, "Doug Crompton" <doug at crompton.com> wrote:

I only ordered UHF but I suspect they might have the same problem. I will
definitely check on a spectrum analyzer when I get them. I think these
modules are designed as part of an overall transceiver and the
microprocessor, display, output amplifier and filtering are missing. For
most people it would not be hard to add the proper filtering but few have
the RF tools to measure the results. So we would have to come up with a
foolproof filter design that can be easily duplicated. At the same time you
don't want it to be physically large as that would defeat at least one of
the advantages of theses modules to begin with. I have a large amount of
double sided copper PC board and I would probably build a little box out of
that and put the filter inside along with the module. It would be a matter
of winding a couple of coils on some common small diameter material like a
pencil and a couple of chip capacitors. Here are some links I found with a
quick search on 2 meter filter design.

http://ve2zaz.net/LowPass_Notch_Filter/144LowPass432Notch.htm

http://www.radiomods.co.nz/lowpassfilterpage2m.html

http://www.g4ztr.co.uk/amateur-radio/construction/2m-low-pass-filter/

http://dutchrfshop.nl/ham-radio/2-meter-band/print-lowpass-filter.html?___st
ore=en
<http://dutchrfshop.nl/ham-radio/2-meter-band/print-lowpass-filter.html?___s
tore=en&___from_store=nl> &___from_store=nl

So as Dave pointed out until we come up with some real measurements on
these, and possible ways to fix the problem, I would be careful about
putting them on anything but a dummy load. If the 2nd harmonic was 6db down
running them at the 1/2 watt output level they would be putting out 125mw at
twice the frequency. Enough to cause interference out to several thousand
feet at least.

I wonder if anyone has looked at some of the cheap handhelds that come in
from China on a spectrum analyzer?  I guess they are type accepted though so
they should be OK.

73 Doug
WA3DSP
http://www.crompton.com/hamradio

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