[arm-allstar] DRA818V VHF and DRA818U UHF Transceiver Modules -- Low Pass filter required!

Mike / W5JR w5jr.lists at gmail.com
Sat Nov 29 20:37:21 EST 2014


One source for suitable harmonic filters would be to salvage same from old GE MASTR II, Exec II or MVP radios. The mobiles are often laying around, free at hamfests or headed to the recycler. Yes, they are a bit larger than the module, but ready to rock and roll. Mobiles likely have the T/R relay on them which can be pulled/bypassed in the way such radios are modified for use as a repeater. 

Or at least use their design to build your own. 

tnx
Mike

> On Nov 29, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com> wrote:
> 
> I only ordered UHF but I suspect they might have the same problem. I will definitely check on a spectrum analyzer when I get them. I think these modules are designed as part of an overall transceiver and the microprocessor, display, output amplifier and filtering are missing. For most people it would not be hard to add the proper filtering but few have the RF tools to measure the results. So we would have to come up with a foolproof filter design that can be easily duplicated. At the same time you don't want it to be physically large as that would defeat at least one of the advantages of theses modules to begin with. I have a large amount of double sided copper PC board and I would probably build a little box out of that and put the filter inside along with the module. It would be a matter of winding a couple of coils on some common small diameter material like a pencil and a couple of chip capacitors. Here are some links I found with a quick search on 2 meter filter design.
> 
> http://ve2zaz.net/LowPass_Notch_Filter/144LowPass432Notch.htm
> 
> http://www.radiomods.co.nz/lowpassfilterpage2m.html
> 
> http://www.g4ztr.co.uk/amateur-radio/construction/2m-low-pass-filter/
> 
> http://dutchrfshop.nl/ham-radio/2-meter-band/print-lowpass-filter.html?___store=en&___from_store=nl
> 
> So as Dave pointed out until we come up with some real measurements on these, and possible ways to fix the problem, I would be careful about putting them on anything but a dummy load. If the 2nd harmonic was 6db down running them at the 1/2 watt output level they would be putting out 125mw at twice the frequency. Enough to cause interference out to several thousand feet at least.
> 
> I wonder if anyone has looked at some of the cheap handhelds that come in from China on a spectrum analyzer?  I guess they are type accepted though so they should be OK.
> 
> 73 Doug
> WA3DSP
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio
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