[arm-allstar] WiFi With BBB?

John wb5nfc at gmail.com
Tue Aug 19 10:03:04 EST 2014


Other than ping to test for packet loss, I have relied on speedtest.net to
provide a gauge of my Internet service. The speedtest web site has a link
to Pingtest. Neither my Verizon hotspot account nor my AT&T (iphone tether)
data account pass pingtest. No router - computer to hotspot. I'm using a
Java-capable browser on a MacBook Pro. Could someone else give this site a
try from a hotspot to see if it provides an accurate picture of packet
loss? What other tools are in the networking toolbox to keep an eye on
general throughput and quality?

John


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:16 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net> wrote:

>
> Yes, a bullet is fine, too.
>
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:
>
> > Great thoughts, David. Thank you! Would an Ubiquity Bullet2 work as well
> -
> > in bridge mode, I'm guessing? Got a couple of those around here somewhere
> > along with a gain antenna and POE adapter.
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:02 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Aha! ...Interesting.  For now, until you've got a workaable router, you
> > > might consider bypassing the router entirely and just using the hotspot
> > > for access. That would require a WiFi adapter to plug into the BBB. I'd
> > > recommend using an Ethernet-attached adapter, not USB. Something like a
> > > Ubiquiti LocoM2 or Picostation. I've used both of these and know for
> > > certain that they work very well with no software changes. Then, use
> > > OpenVPN (already installed on the BBB)  to access a VPN provider if
> > > needed. I know this works, too.
> > >
> > > See:
> > >
> > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EA1AW8701
> > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4KF1HA8725
> > >
> > > VPN provider configs. These guys charge about $6 a month.
> > >
> > > http://www.ipvanish.com/
> > > http://www.ipvanish.com/software/configs/
> > >
> > >
> > > 73, David KB4FXC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, this is weird.... I bypassed my router and connected (via wifi)
> > > > directly to the Verizon hotspot:
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > www.google.com ping statistics ---
> > > >
> > > > 61 packets transmitted, 61 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
> > > >
> > > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 131.882/153.472/197.885/10.463 ms
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > > Not great, but considerably better. Perhaps it's time for a firmware
> > > reload
> > > > on the router? The router does have the most recent firmware, that's
> the
> > > > first thing I checked when I got it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > J.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John <wb5nfc at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm definitely ready to set up a VPN if that will solve the
> problem.
> > > > > What's worrisome is the up and down nature of my quality of
> service.
> > > > > Example: This is a ping of Google from my router just a few
> minutes ago
> > > > > using Verizon. The first 11 pings were consistent, then timeout.
> > > > > .....
> > > > >
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=5.
> > > > > time=168.665. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=6.
> > > > > time=161.438. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=7.
> > > > > time=198.898. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=8.
> > > > > time=164.530. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=9.
> > > > > time=162.396. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=10.
> > > > > time=210.886. ms
> > > > > 64 bytes from ord08s07-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.225.80):
> icmp_seq=11.
> > > > > time=172.347. ms
> > > > >
> > > > > Timed out trying to send a packet to www.google.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Even when I change to another carrier (AT&T) I get similar
> results. I'm
> > > > > guessing this is why everything will be working just fine for a few
> > > > > minutes, then I'm disconnected. I won't be able to connect to
> anything
> > > > > (Allstar or Echolink) for a while, then next time I try,
> connection is
> > > fine
> > > > > for a few minutes. Very frustrating.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:45 PM, David McGough <kb4fxc at inttek.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi John,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't have familiarity with the routers you're using, but, I
> know
> > > it can
> > > > >> be made to work--I used a Verizon 4G smartphone HotSpot at a club
> > > meeting
> > > > >> recently to provide a connection for a BBB.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This scenario didn't get me a "live" IP address or any port
> > > forwarding.
> > > > >> So, it required that I run a VPN (outbound) to obtain a live
> address.
> > > If
> > > > >> you can't find a way to get port forwarding working, there are
> > > numerous
> > > > >> VPN providers out there for a few dollars a month.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 73, David KB4FXC
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014, John wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Correct, Doug. Email and general web surfing are fine. We don't
> do
> > > any
> > > > >> > streaming video because of our data cap. I normally have the
> > > ethernet
> > > > >> port
> > > > >> > on the BBB plugged in to a Cradlepoint CTR35 router configured
> for
> > > Wifi
> > > > >> as
> > > > >> > WAN. I was never able to get the BBB operational when I tried to
> > > connect
> > > > >> > the BBB directly to the ethernet port on a different router
> > > tethered to
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > hotspot.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > John
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Doug Crompton <
> doug at crompton.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > John,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >  We may have been down this road before but is there a way to
> get
> > > > >> wired
> > > > >> > > Ethernet off of the router or is there a router you can get
> that
> > > has
> > > > >> wired
> > > > >> > > Ethernet for your service? That would always be the way to go
> with
> > > > >> the BBB
> > > > >> > > as it would be a whole lot easier and avoid a hub and wifi
> > > adapter. I
> > > > >> am
> > > > >> > > assuming this is not a connection problem you have in general
> with
> > > > >> > > everything you are trying to connect but just the BBB on
> wifi??
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > *73 DougWA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > > > >> > > <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 11:46:11 -0500
> > > > >> > > From: wb5nfc at gmail.com
> > > > >> > > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [arm-allstar] WiFi With BBB?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > It looks like I'm fighting a losing battle trying to use 4G
> > > LTE-based
> > > > >> > > Internet service for Allstar/Echolink. Sometimes it works,
> > > sometimes
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > > doesn't...
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > This is extremely disappointing since cell phone data service
> is
> > > my
> > > > >> only
> > > > >> > > means of access to the Internet as a full-time RVer.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I've been attempting to use a Verizon-based hotspot with
> limited
> > > > >> success.
> > > > >> > > Yesterday, I gave up my 'unlimited' data account on my iPhone
> > > just to
> > > > >> see
> > > > >> > > if ATT data service was any better. It's not. In fact, I have
> more
> > > > >> packet
> > > > >> > > loss with ATT (63% during a ping test just now).
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > If anyone knows any tweaks to make the best of a bad
> situation,
> > > I'd
> > > > >> love
> > > > >> > > to hear 'em.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > John
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Christopher Kovacs <
> > > > >> w0anm73 at gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I am using WiFi on one of my nodes. I tried my phones hot
> spot,
> > > but
> > > > >> too
> > > > >> > > much packet issues.  If I am using WiFi home network, I get
> good
> > > > >> results.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I'll be sending out set information later about setting up
> WIFi
> > > with
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > BBB.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Chris. w0anm
> > > > >> > > On Aug 17, 2014 4:17 PM, "Ramon Gonzalez" <
> kp4tr.ramon at gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I setup wifi using wpa supplicant. Works fine using edimax usb
> > > wifi.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Problem with BBB is it only has 1 usb port so you would need
> a usb
> > > > >> hub. Im
> > > > >> > > using a small non powered one and works ok, but sometimes wifi
> > > just
> > > > >> plain
> > > > >> > > doesnt want to connect.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sunday, August 17, 2014, Doug Crompton <doug at crompton.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > John,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >   Yes, we have that working and the documentation will be out
> > > shortly.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > *73 Doug WA3DSPhttp://www.crompton.com/hamradio
> > > > >> > > <http://www.crompton.com/hamradio>*
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:31:42 -0500
> > > > >> > > From: wb5nfc at gmail.com
> > > > >> > > To: arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > Subject: [arm-allstar] WiFi With BBB?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Anyone using their BBB with a usb wifi adaptor? Doing so might
> > > help me
> > > > >> > > simplify my mobile node setup if I could connect directly to
> my
> > > Wifi
> > > > >> > > Hotspot rather than going through an additional router. Any
> > > thoughts?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > John
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ arm-allstar
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> > > > >> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > Visit
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > BBB web page -
> > > > >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Sent from Gmail Mobile
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list
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> > > > >> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -
> > > > >> > > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -
> > > > >> > > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > John Kenney
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ arm-allstar
> > > mailing
> > > > >> list
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > Visit
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > BBB web page -
> > > > >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar mailing list
> > > > >> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Visit the BBB web page -
> > > > >> > > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >>
> > > > >> arm-allstar mailing list
> > > > >> arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > > >> http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Visit the BBB web page -
> > > > >> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Kenney
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > arm-allstar mailing list
> > > arm-allstar at hamvoip.org
> > > http://lists.hamvoip.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/arm-allstar
> > >
> > > Visit the BBB web page -
> > > http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> Visit the BBB web page -
> http://www.crompton.com/hamradio/BeagleBoneBlackAllstar/
>



-- 
John Kenney
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